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marcal 04-29-2015 08:30 AM

Through sheer bad luck, I'm going to exhaust my allotment of sick time this year. I know it resets June 1, but is there anything to do to not lose pay after exhausting it? I will have gone over about 10 hours. Do I just lose 10 hours credit/pay?

sailingfun 04-29-2015 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1870595)
Why have a trade off on work rules to begin with? Especially with productivity? AND to such a level that Ed claimed it was a way to pay for C2012?

Ed never claimed that. This was hashed out over and over again. The companies claim to Wallstreet when asked how they could afford the contract was that all the changes with the refleeting being the biggest would pay for the contractual improvements via increased revenue and productivity. You need only look at the quarterly reports to see how much pilot costs have gone up since the start of the contract. They certainly have not stayed the same.
As far as offsets there were something like 5 or 6. The big two were reducing when a reserve was full and counting vacations and all known absences when determine full status. Others included increased training and vacation pay and the increase in sick leave. The sick leave part turned out to be far greater then the company expected hence their current fixation with that subject.

BenderRodriguez 04-29-2015 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by marcal (Post 1870633)
Through sheer bad luck, I'm going to exhaust my allotment of sick time this year. I know it resets June 1, but is there anything to do to not lose pay after exhausting it? I will have gone over about 10 hours. Do I just lose 10 hours credit/pay?

If it's only 10 hours, you can use your bank to fill up. You guys need to learn about the bank, I'm telling you) If you are going to be out for awhile you can go on ST disability and get it recharged. I think. I would call Karen Browne Fleck at dALPA and talk to her about it though. I had a similar thing happen a few years back, and I had knee surgery on the last weekend of May to get that recharged. I might be giving you old information, so call Ms Browne-Fleck. You might have to leave a voice mail, but she'll get back to you.

sailingfun 04-29-2015 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by marcal (Post 1870633)
Through sheer bad luck, I'm going to exhaust my allotment of sick time this year. I know it resets June 1, but is there anything to do to not lose pay after exhausting it? I will have gone over about 10 hours. Do I just lose 10 hours credit/pay?

Do not rely on the Forum for this. Call 1 800 USA ALPA and ask for Karen Fleck. There is no way to even attempt to answer the question with the limited info you gave.

NuGuy 04-29-2015 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1870616)
Cannot stop laughing.

You quoted 80... from 2007.

There are guys out there who keep carefully archived posts, from this and other forums, going back much further than that. One guy copied a post from a forum he didn't even have access to over on "the other board" from before the merger.

Not sure to what end someone needs to "archive" stuff like that. But everyone needs a hobby, I guess.

Nu

satchip 04-29-2015 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1870360)
Hmmm.... if it looks like a Duck, walks like a Duck, Quacks like a Duck...

I wonder what it tastes like! :D

Do you really expect an answer to that?....:rolleyes:

maddogmax 04-29-2015 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by satchip (Post 1870697)
Do you really expect an answer to that?....:rolleyes:

Tastes like Chicken

1Bob 04-29-2015 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1870592)
ALPA did come out and explain exactly what the job loss worst case would be. Their number was a net number looking at the various trade offs. In the areas where we gave up jobs we asked and got offsets in other areas. The net effect was a loss of about 150 jobs system wide. The forum claimed the number was far in excess of that. Block hours compared to headcount show that number to be accurate if not a little pessimistic. Crew planning made no changes in manning assumptions.

The largest offset in job loss was supposed to be the early retirement program. As I recall less than a third of those expected to, actually took it.

BenderRodriguez 04-29-2015 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by 1Bob (Post 1870703)
The largest offset in job loss was supposed to be the early retirement program. As I recall less than a third of those expected to, actually took it.

Early retirement programs aren't worth the paper they are printed on. Ever.

CheapTrick 04-29-2015 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1870294)
I think it's OK to speculate on whether one anonymous poster is really the same as a previous anonymous poster.

There's no question bender is tsquare, I just can't imagine why he/she just doesn't bring back tsquare.

Carl

I will agree with Carl when he is correct (which is almost never), but.... Why does a guy leave because he hates this place and then come back... as a different poster... but spouting the exact p.o.v. as his previous incarnation? What's the point? Is he embarrassed at not being able to stay away? I'm with Carl. Why not bring back TSquare?

Perhaps he just wanted to be born again. A do over. A new start. Our maybe the Dixie Mafia was closing in. Never double down on the Vols - three weeks in a row.


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