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Hawaii50 04-28-2015 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1870172)
I'm trying to figure out if sailingfun is purposely attempting to deceive us, or if he really is that clueless.

Funny. I've been thinking the that same thing about you and Karl since you started posting here.

Carl Spackler 04-28-2015 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1870277)
What does the fact that the company wants to monetize our PS tell you? It tells me that they think they will be able to monetize it for less than its worth. We would be fools to agree to monetize PS.

We are only talking about a possible three year deal. Lets ride PS for all its worth while times are good. Eventually the profits may hit a hiccup but I am willing to bet my PS that it will be more than three years out.

Good people can disagree on whether to do it or not Scoop. What I don't think anyone can disagree with is that profit sharing MUST be detached from Section 6 negotiations. It MUST be done separately. Done together, it means it's a concession that funded a Section 6 gain.

Carl

Mesabah 04-28-2015 05:16 PM

I think the son of the owner of the Orioles said it best.

“Brett, speaking only for myself, I agree with your point that the principle of peaceful, non-violent protest and the observance of the rule of law is of utmost importance in any society. MLK, Gandhi, Mandela, and all great opposition leaders throughout history have always preached this precept. Further, it is critical that in any democracy investigation must be completed and due process must be honored before any government or police members are judged responsible.
That said, my greater source of personal concern, outrage and sympathy beyond this particular case is focused neither upon one night’s property damage nor upon the acts, but is focused rather upon the past four-decade period during which an American political elite have shipped middle class and working class jobs away from Baltimore and cities and towns around the U.S. to third-world dictatorships like China and others, plunged tens of millions of good hard-working Americans into economic devastation, and then followed that action around the nation by diminishing every American’s civil rights protections in order to control an unfairly impoverished population living under an ever-declining standard of living and suffering at the butt end of an ever-more militarized and aggressive surveillance state.
The innocent working families of all backgrounds whose lives and dreams have been cut short by excessive violence, surveillance, and other abuses of the Bill of Rights by government pay the true price, an ultimate price, and one that far exceeds the importance of any kids’ game played tonight, or ever, at Camden Yards. We need to keep in mind people are suffering and dying around the U.S., and while we are thankful no one was injured at Camden Yards, there is a far bigger picture for poor Americans in Baltimore and everywhere who don’t have jobs and are losing economic civil and legal rights, and this makes inconvenience at a ball game irrelevant in light of the needless suffering government is inflicting upon ordinary Americans.”


scambo1 04-28-2015 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1870294)
I think it's OK to speculate on whether one anonymous poster is really the same as a previous anonymous poster.

There's no question bender is tsquare, I just can't imagine why he/she just doesn't bring back tsquare.

Carl

Otoh, bring back Jesse!

flyallnite 04-28-2015 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 1870270)
Reliable source:

1) The Company wants a deal by the summer.
2) Pay-banding is not on the table.
3) "Monetizing," PS is.
4) The Company wants to go after sick-leave abuse (and as usual the "abuse" is due to 2% of the pilot group.)

I was never good at math, but 2+3+4 does not equal 1.

No reason to sign that, why give up a huge raise via profit sharing, make sick leave (even more) difficult on everyone to punish a micro group, and what sounds like another scope cave. No thanks.

GunshipGuy 04-28-2015 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1870294)
I think it's OK to speculate on whether one anonymous poster is really the same as a previous anonymous poster.

There's no question bender is tsquare, I just can't imagine why he/she just doesn't bring back tsquare.

Carl

Maybe he put up some epic Duck cheerleader pics he was holding onto for a while and ended up getting permanently banned.

Just sayin.

https://thechive.files.wordpress.com...y=94&strip=all

Timbo 04-28-2015 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by GunshipGuy (Post 1870351)
Maybe he put up some epic Duck cheerleader pics he was holding onto for a while and ended up getting permanently banned.

Just sayin.

https://thechive.files.wordpress.com...y=94&strip=all

Hmmm.... if it looks like a Duck, walks like a Duck, Quacks like a Duck...

I wonder what it tastes like! :D

sailingfun 04-28-2015 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1870322)
Nothing you've said about C2012 has come to pass sailingfun. Nothing. Your predictions prior and after have never come true. Accuracy is something you don't do.



Nobody has said that sailingfun. You continuously accuse people of having said that, but only you have said it.



Show me this statement of yours sailingfun.



Did you mean past? :rolleyes:

Carl

Sometimes I wonder what planet your actually on Carl. The Forum was not screaming job loss? GMAFB

scambo1 04-28-2015 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1870371)
Sometimes I wonder what planet your actually on Carl. The Forum was not screaming job loss? GMAFB

Pmfji, APC was screaming scope cave, 4 8 3 3, the 717s were coming anyway. I don't think job loss was the issue.

gzsg 04-28-2015 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1870371)
Sometimes I wonder what planet your actually on Carl. The Forum was not screaming job loss? GMAFB

Sailing

How many jobs will we **** away this time?

C2012--increased ALV 2 hours, changed summer calendar, 99 hours reserve, etc.


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