ALPA let the camel's nose under the tent a long time ago w/the AQFO program, but I do take your meaning vis a vie the escalation. On the other hand, it is a great vehicle for designating talented people for future leadership. Right now FO's who want to something other that line pilot can only go to the training department. AFQO or (whatever the new designator may be) is a great opportunity to get highly qualified individuals to that side of the operation.

I know its not popular talk here, but doing something other than line pilot isn't the same as shagging sheep-most days. A widely profitable corporation needs those guys who, because of there own wants, ambition, drive, etc. want more responsibility. AQFO is a great entry point. The two guys hired my category have insane levels of experience and judgment. They are being tapped because people will be working for them in ten years. With 8000 retiring in 10 years we need to get them, in place. That's a good thing.

I get the argument. Stick it to the man. Or perhaps, just make the company operate to the exact confines of the contract. But ultimately I think that bites us in the butt. I think you save your big ammo for the biggest issues and just ***** about the little stuff. This is a little issue. Voted heck no. Got a little vocal. Tried not to go crazy. But this doesn't seem like a new or big issue.

Re: The new box to check to accept a GS while on a rotation. Has that been added to iCrew yet? Can't see it on the template.

Tanks.

I agree with all that. I got nothing against AQFOs doing those flights.
I'm just saying the company can't make this change while we are in Section 6 unless we agree to it.

If its not a big issue then management shouldn't mind stopping it.

Sat sideways for a long time. ;)

Step 1: Protect Essential

I know what "pb" day is, what is "pr?"

Thanks

Partial/Payback rest

Are AQFOs doing line checks?

Me too! Loved that jet.

No, but they are being re-designated "Line Validation Pilots" (LVP) which will allow them to conduct mid - probation checks for new hires that previously was solely a LCA role.

That is what this discussion is about. Is this just a reasonable change to operations that comes in the course of running an airline, and has little to nothing to do with labor issues? Or, is this a violation of "status quo" that results in more (lower paid) F/O LPVs doing new tasks resulting in fewer (higher paying) LCAs needed, thus a stick in the pilots' collective eye?

I think it more of the former, but others disagree, which is fine.

Starts on 7 Dec and my understanding is that it will be only a select few that will do the proby check.

Also CheapTrick is spot on. That was the conversation a few of us had with the CP here a few weeks ago.