Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 1870844)

Does it help? Who knows

Can it hurt? Nope.

I fill them out because I have seen (first hand) politicians inquire as to how many of our members support a given issue. It gives our government affairs guys more ammo when they are in there dealing with (sometimes) irrational, (nearly always) short-sighted, self-serving politicians that only seek to please the highest bidder OR the one that can offer them votes/influence/support.

We are at a severe disadvantage in DC because "they" will always have deeper pockets. We need every edge we can get, and then it still might not be enough.

Good on you Diesel for seeing the importance of these issues, even as a "Delta noooob." I think we may have met about a month ago. War Eagle?:D

Ten, thanks for filling it out again. It is a pita, but worth our time.

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1871011)

Ok Carl, so how do you explain the huge increase in pilot costs over the last 3 years or is Delta management forging their financial reports?

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1871021)

Focus now sailingfun, I want you to really focus: Where does Delta management list pilot costs in their financial reports?

Carl

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1871062)

It's in the reports the company is required to file.
2.1 billion in 2011
2.25 in 2012
2.78 in 2013
2014,looks like tp it will come in above 3.

Originally Posted by CheapTrick (Post 1870892)

Andy Dufresne? Same Andy Dufresne that were abused by the Sisters down in the laundry? The guy that spent all that time down in solitary and was hung by the shirt collar four stories up. The Andy that was rich lawyer and then a forgotten convict? The one that crawled through a mile of human dung? The poor soul that caught Susan Sarandon on the downside? No, I don't want to be like Andy.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1871063)

Where sailingfun? Where in the company's financial reports does it list pilot costs?

Carl

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1871071)

Do you dispute those numbers Carl?

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1871076)

What numbers sailingfun? Exactly what are the numbers you're stating and exactly where are they located in the company's financial reports?

Carl

Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1870197)

Yet it appears that scope concessions are going to be part of any deal presented to us, if this article is to be believed. The fact that TSA and SKW have both aircraft already ordered would lead me to think that a deal has been informally agreed upon, and the details are all that's left. After all, our 717 order was contingent upon our agreeing to a contract. Here it would appear that agreement, in principal, has already been reached... these orders are booked.