Yeah....problem is, now it's every granny's nookie!

 

You suggested a blatant concession. I responded harshly. Nothing personal. It's a message board.

 

Also, some of our trips are now worth more hours than they were just a few years ago. The crappy 3 days worth 10:30 (30 hour sits + redeyes, UIO turns, etc) are now all worth 15:45. That in itself has an impact/increase in our alleged sick usage uptick through NO change in our behavior.

*Warning Public Math Problem*

Pilot A calls in sick pre C12 for 1 3 day trip in the sick year. He uses 10:30 of sick time.

The same pilot calls in sick for the same exact rotation in 2015, and doesn't use another minute. His total sick usage for the year is now 15:45.

Q: How much more sick time did this pilot use in the second sick year vs the first?


I'm with Carl (what the hell is going on this week? ) in that I want to see proof of alleged sick abuse before I get on board with this witch hunt. I have no doubt there are a few out there doing things they shouldn't, but I'm tired of feeling like an unethical POS every time I get a head cold and have to use the negotiated benefit provided for in our PWA.

My sick leave hours have gone up YOY, mostly due to Timbo's reason above, combined with 5:15 ADG, and the fact that I fall squarely in the "living with little kids" category. Anyone can make a spreadsheet support their position - it's all in the assumptions and basis of the data. Garbage in, garbage out

 

Maybe they just want to sure up the sick leave policy before they institute CDOs and change OE recovery rules knowing full well pilots are going to get beat up and/or mad and probably call in sick. Its a chess move.

But uh no, it's just all about you guys.

 

Or this example:

Pilot calls in sick on last day of a 13 day trip (also something we only recently started to do). Trip pays 75 hours. 45 block, 30 credit. Guess how much sick time he used? That's right boys and girls, ALL the credit gets charged to sick bank, even though the pilot called in sick on the last day. Who's abusing who here?!

 

We have been running 11 to 13 day trips at Delta since at least 1992. They are not recent.

 

Where is Dalpa to crush these sick leave and OE trial balloons, and reassure us that the JV grievance and PS are not on the table for C15? Why aren't they demanding public proof of this so-called sick leave "abuse?" And if no proof exists, why isn't Dalpa screaming that from the top of Stone Mountain?

Let me guess: Dalpa can't talk about it publicly due to a "confidentiality agreement." Does that even exist? Or is it just a request from management? Yet somehow the company is free not to comply. Sound familiar? Proactive engagement fails again.

 

Did you fly any of them?

 

Because they don't have to? Maybe we can put on our big boys pants, and not need such "reassurances"? All we have right now is a few rumors of LCA's pushing the argument that our sick usage is out of control. It's the company's job to look for vulnerabilities, and reduce costs. The only thing you can rest "assured" of, is that they're trying. This is one of the angles they're evidently working. Or not. BFD.

This has come up every contract, and every TA, including during CH11. It changes little, because the fact is that pilots cannot perform their jobs while sick, and it's difficult to have a system that filters out all abuse, while allowing legitimate sick calls.

From an accounting perspective, it's an constant source of frustration that us meat-based flying units fail sometimes, and our downtime costs money. Maybe this frustration over our ridiculously human failings is what's causing them to underinvest in human maintenance and repair? It' not like we can't deliver seats our backs can tolerate, intercoms on the loudest aircraft, OJI procedures designed for human beings, healthcare that actually works in this century. They simply choose not to.

Next topic.

 

Not domestic, and not back-to-back. You do remember 30-in-7, right?