It's the lost decade. I fly with a lot of guys who are stagnated in this very position. They are resentful of the stagnation. It makes for an unhappy person.

I fly with a lot of 16 to17 year FO's who are not even in the top 10% of seniority in their category. They have little hope of moving up beyond the narrowbody domestic category.

I know the noise in the cockpit effects all of us. We are always yelling at one another.

If you think ATL narrowbody has a lot of weirdness, you should have flown in DFW. There was some serious strangeness going on in DFW.

I certainly concur with your first paragraph regarding the list decade and stagnation. Why do you say a 16-17 year FO "has little hope" of moving beyond narrowbody domestic FO?

Any of them can now hold widebody FO (at the least) and with lots of retirements coming that will only get better... even if long overdue.

So we need the opposite of the TOTD thread, what it be called? Or maybe an award.

The Newk Award for Bravery and Chivalry in a Leading Roll: Roadkill Captain


The Newk Award For Editing, Spelling, Grammar, Proofreading and Special Effects: FTB

"PR" (Partial RES day):

Let's say you're Payback Day ends and you start long-call at 1800. What's the earliest you can be assigned a rotation?

1800+12 (or +10 for SC), correct?

What is this thread? "The Latest & Greatest ways to bash the ATL88A's"? Thinking I might need to change my base and/or position..Starting to get a complex:)

Nerd ATL88A

I am just repeating what I hear. Most say with PBS their relative seniority is worse and those trips would suck. I agree things should start to improve IF we hold the line on JV/Codeshare agreements.

+1

I was just thinking these same things yesterday. It's very nice, and refreshing, to hear about the good guys/gals. Roadkill's post/experience fits the bill perfectly. Such good people should be celebrated and recognized as being part of the solution, not the problem.

You can always pick up time in current month. It will drop conflicting trips in next bid period. Can be used craftily to drop a next month trip. That's using a white slip.

Not sure about the pot swap.

You couldn't possibly be talking about FCAP?

I'm with you Cog, this is a great career path for all of us. It is my profession of choice by a wide margin. Looking at the ups and downs of this profession over the last 30 years from both the outside and the inside though didn't leave me the luxury of making it the only option.

Many friends were furloughed, thousands of co-workers lost pensions, many lost houses, cars, wives, etc over the uncertainties in this industry. Thousands of us lost five years of upgrades during a time when we planned on putting aside extra for retirement. We are all one doctor visit away from long term unemployment. The level of risk in our collectively preferred careers dictates we also have prudent backup plans.