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Lets say you have an uncommutable 3 day rotation that you'll have to commute in a day early for. Can you put in a white slip for a 4 day that would conflict with your 3 day, but allow you to work on the day you would have otherwise had to commute in without getting paid? Does the white slip with conflict cause the computer to not look at it at all? Thanks in advance.

I think for that you want to use swap with the pot.

MrBojangles

05-22-2015 08:18 PM

you can still definitely be rerouted into a golden day on reserve...been there done that a few times. evidently they can also reroute you into a personal drop day too

GogglesPisano

05-23-2015 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan Shore (Post 1886775)

A golden X-day is a "hard non-fly day," as opposed to a normal X-day, which is a "soft non-fly day," and a reserve pilot may not be inversely assigned on a hard non-fly day. The upshot of this is that a reserve pilot is automatically released at noon before the start of a golden X-day and may not be inversely assigned to fly on or into his golden X-day. Also, Crew Scheduling must make effort to avoid rerouting him into a golden X-day.

Yes. A reserve pilot can only be flown into an X-day (not golden) as an inverse assignment, and that always generates premium pay for any duty period that touches an X-day.

Thanks, Alan. I could not find the language.

Herkflyr

05-23-2015 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by LetsRoll (Post 1886797)

You can only do that if the 3-day (in your example) started in month two and the 4-day began at the end of month one.

Otherwise as another poster just stated, you need to use the swap with the pot function.

MoonShot

05-23-2015 04:59 AM

Anyone know how it works if you get a spill GS trip where you are reserve the current month and regular the next month?

Get your days in the current month back as PB days and then 2x pay for spill credit?

Is there a way to get screwed here?

Scoop

05-23-2015 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MoonShot (Post 1886978)

You are pretty much correct. In your scenario I think you are OK.

How you can get "hosed," so to speak, if there is such a think as getting hosed on a GS, is when you spill from a line with a month to a line with reserve.

All trip credit is paid on the last day of the trip. So if you have a 4 day with lots of credit on the front end it will all be paid as single credit above the guarantee vice 2X pay in the first month.

Scoop

Alan Shore

05-23-2015 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBojangles (Post 1886862)

you can still definitely be rerouted into a golden day on reserve...been there done that a few times. evidently they can also reroute you into a personal drop day too

And into vacation, MLOA, etc. Bear in mind that Crew Tracking only knows the rotation you're currently flying. They neither know nor care what you have coming up next. All of that info belongs to Crew Scheduling.

If you are being rerouted into a hard non-fly day, you may, if you wish, so inform Crew Scheduling of the conflict, at which point they will be tasked to "make every reasonable effort to resolve" such a conflict. (23 L. 7.) In other words, if they can find another pilot to fly your reroute and get you back to base in time, they are required to do so.

OTOH, being rerouted into a vacation day(s) can be a pretty good deal, depending upon the circumstance. (7 F. 8.)

Alan Shore

05-23-2015 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1886988)

How you can get "hosed," so to speak, if there is such a think as getting hosed on a GS, is when you spill from a line with a month to a line with reserve.

All trip credit is paid on the last day of the trip. So if you have a 4 day with lots of credit on the front end it will all be paid as single credit above the guarantee vice 2X pay in the first month.

And that's only if you happen to have X-days scheduled at the beginning of the reserve month. Otherwise, the carry in value goes against your guarantee.

RetiredFTS

05-23-2015 06:43 AM

Question: If the CA is going to get a theatre qual, does one of the FOs get released? If so, does the CA release the FO? And is it the FO on the CAs rotation or the senior FO?

flyallnite

05-23-2015 07:08 AM

Alright, which one of you jokers meowed...

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