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RockyBoy 02-10-2015 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1822808)
As far as comparing us to OAL on sick leave, I have a question.

If I bang in sick for a 5 day trip because I'm sick for the first 2 days, and then there is nothing in open time to pick up so I just eat up the entire 5, then I'm out 28 hours-ish. So my one sick call was 5 days and 28 hours.

But over at Brand X airlines they may not even have 5 day trips. Maybe more 2 days. And if they're sick for the same amount of days, 2, then they may only be gone 2 days and 10 hours, I'm double that.

So at USAIR, Merican and UCAL, what is an average day pay? And what is an average domestic and separately international trip in days and hours?

Maybe we need to be relegated to 2 day trips, 3 max, and international is... 3 and maybe 4 at the max. Then sick leave won't be as expensive.

We just need shorter trips.


I think that is one factor that drives our usage stats upwards. However, we can now call in well on day 3 of 5 and we will still get paid for the entire trip if we don't WS to make time up. Under the old rules when you called in well you HAD to WS or you lost time so nobody ever called in well until prior to the next rotation.

I know my sick time usage went up some when the 5-day rotations showed up. I've never been sick for two rotations in a row so before, the maximum I ever used in a sick call was around 20-21 hours maybe. Now if I sick out for a 5-day it can be 28-32 hours. How many guys call in well on day 3 then toss in a WS? I'd bet almost none.

They are also tracking sick DAYS which include days off that you don't call in well. So say you have a 2-day with 7 days off after that. You call in sick and don't call in well until the day prior to your next trip and you show sick for 9 days. I'm not sure why they are tracking that now, but they do.

If they were good managers, they would show us the detailed data and what they are looking at. If we are using more because none of us call in well on days off, then most of us will start doing so. Maybe we should all be calling in well on day 3 of 5 even though we know we won't WS to make up the time? None of us really know what they are tracking and what they mean when they say we use more sick time than our peers.

GogglesPisano 02-10-2015 11:19 AM

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Open time goes in, death beam comes out. Pity the crewmember who gets in its way.

RockyBoy 02-10-2015 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by OldFlyGuy (Post 1823055)
Ultimately the reoute re-construction is limited by having the correct crew & airplane in position for the follow on rotations. However, I sense a strange and wonderful area of complete agreement with PD. Our reroute rules are nonsense. And "interviewing" me for failing to meet a non-negotiated non contractual productivity standard? ***. I'm bringing a union rep and my personal attorney and probably a lawsuit. OFG

Exactly.

Can't we just tell them we would rather not come in for an interview based upon non-contractual "productivity" issues? So if my D0 and D14 stats on the new PAS are say 40% do I really need to come in and have an interview with them?

So what if coverage is good and I drop half my trips? The only side business they have any right to ask me about is if I'm running a competing aviation business. Other than that, they have no right to interview me about my side business activity.

If you took a survey of those running a business on the side 98% of us will say we do it because we no longer have the ability to make the money we thought we were going to make and have the pension we thought we were going to have. I think all the smart pilots realized having all your career eggs in one basket was not a smart move. A minimum month for me is a no vote on C2015.

Purple Drank 02-10-2015 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 1823058)
None of us really know what they are tracking and what they mean when they say we use more sick time than our peers.

I think this is an important thought.

The company is fabricating a crisis--instilling a sense of paranoia and making us look defensively over our shoulders instead of focusing on the fact that the company is wildly profitable and we don't need to concede a THING.

I'm also guilty of biting on the company's manufactured hysteria instead of winding my watch.

Record profits. No concessions. No need to fan the company's attempt to manipulate us.

Sink r8 02-10-2015 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1823016)
Go to the inside the company newsletter series and find the pilot performance letter. Should be the last one out. Read about the plans to re platform the reroute optimizer and reduce will needs to crew Skeds.

You're right, I did see that. The vague, ominous feeling I got from it was overshadowed by the vague, ominous feeling I got from the PAS, which was itself overtaken by a more pronounced ominous feeling over the "interviews".

I guess we're only waiting for the next evolutions of the "Inside" series: "Inside You", "Inside You Too", and "Deep Inside You". They're almost there. Hell, thanks to UHC, they're probably there already.

1984 isn't that far ahead.

Carl Spackler 02-10-2015 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by Reroute (Post 1822725)
Carl, where did you hear or read that?

From my reps who were on the conference call. The reps made it extremely clear that profit sharing was not authorized to be changed. The NC didn't have the authority to do what they did. The reps were as clear as they could have been.

Carl

Reroute 02-10-2015 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1823103)
From my reps who were on the conference call. The reps made it extremely clear that profit sharing was not authorized to be changed. The NC didn't have the authority to do what they did. The reps were as clear as they could have been.

Carl

Then either you're a liar, your reps are liars or you misunderstood. Which specific rep told you that TT, SS or DM, because I was on that conference call too and what you are saying is a lie.

Carl Spackler 02-10-2015 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1822776)
Okay, I'm going to have to stop with the Brian Williams jokes, basically if he is referenced nothing is real in the post.

No, you just need to realize like Dennis Miller, sometimes jokes are meant for a narrow group. It doesn't make them less funny. :D

Carl

Posted from inside scambo's unopened Surface Pro 2 box.

Carl Spackler 02-10-2015 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by Reroute (Post 1823104)
Then either you're a liar, your reps are liars or you misunderstood. Which specific rep told you that TT, SS or DM, because I was on that conference call too and what you are saying is a lie.

TT and SS. I didn't talk to Drew.

I don't think you were on the call reroute. If you were, you would have heard clear unambiguous language agreed to by every rep that profit sharing was not to be traded without further authorization from the reps. That authorization never came before TA2012 was signed by the NC. For you to now claim that didn't happen is a ridiculous attempt at revisionist history. I don't know who you are or what role you played on that call, but you weren't listening...if you were even there.

Carl

Carl Spackler 02-10-2015 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by GunshipGuy (Post 1822473)
33 House GOP members joined in writing a letter to Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx this past June urging him to reject the NAI bid, yet some of these members were not supported by the PAC. If the PAC were not concerned with which party a congressman was affiliated, it would seem supporting every single one of these 33 would be helpful to our cause.


Originally Posted by pilotc90a (Post 1822798)
I wonder if there is a way to look up if those 33 were "supported" by A4A... and who gets to play good cop, and who is the bad cop?

This is why being represented by a far left liberal political organization is difficult for us. We had 33 house republican members join the fight against NAI. Yet we have folks like pilotc90a question their integrity and motivation. This is why conservatives just look the other way with "labor" issues. Labor is so wedded to the far left, you get slapped even when you try to help.

Try to ease up on the thoughtless hate man.

Carl


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