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Reroute 02-10-2015 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1823110)
TT and SS. I didn't talk to Drew.

I don't think you were on the call reroute. If you were, you would have heard clear unambiguous language agreed to by every rep that profit sharing was not to be traded without further authorization from the reps. That authorization never came before TA2012 was signed by the NC. For you to now claim that didn't happen is a ridiculous attempt at revisionist history. I don't know who you are or what role you played on that call, but you weren't listening...if you were even there.

Carl

I was on the call and knowing TT and SS as I do, I don't think they lied. Therefore, either you misunderstood, or you are a liar.

TT wrote quite a bit about the TA and the process, can you produce one quote of his that supports your position?

Carl Spackler 02-10-2015 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by Xray678 (Post 1821930)
actually, I have had both management and ALPA tell me we are above the industry average.

You say that as if there's a difference or something. :confused:

Carl

Carl Spackler 02-10-2015 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by Reroute (Post 1823119)
I was on the call and knowing TT and SS as I do, I don't think they lied. Therefore, either you misunderstood, or you are a liar.

TT wrote quite a bit about the TA and the process, can you produce one quote of his that supports your position?

I didn't keep everything they wrote from almost 3 years ago. Sorry. Since you claim you were on the call, you should have access to the post-call transcripts and notes that were made. You're so intent on proving me to be a liar (as is every DALPA shill), then post the notes of the call. I'll wait.

Carl

ImTumbleweed 02-10-2015 02:04 PM

Sick leave usage Increase?
 

Originally Posted by tim123 (Post 1822824)
So 1 person told you that we are above industry average,and we are suppose to take it for gospel?

Regarding SD's memo that from 2012 to 2014 pilot sick usage is up 25%...

Between 2012 and 2014 didn't the company *change* the way they track/account for sick use?

I believe the old method simply tracked "Lost work days". I believe the new method tracks "Total days lost from calling in sick until calling in well" (big difference).

I have a hard time believing that all 12,000 pilots at DAL suddenly increased their sick time by 25%.

I have an easy time believing that the low-level bean counters at DAL changed the way they track/account for sick leave and they forgot to tell upper-level management. Then upper-level management looks at the numbers and says "Woah! We've got a HUGE spike in sick leave usage".

In reality, sick usage has not change a bit. Only the method of tracking it.

Who at DALPA would be able to look into this? Thoughts?

Purple Drank 02-10-2015 02:18 PM

I wouldn't count on DALPA to challenge the company's sick leave narrative.

One of the DALPA administration's shills on the other forum is squawking the same line about sick leave "abuse." And he's even using pre-merger data (!) to try to make the case. It's disheartening to say the least.

Pathetic.

forgot to bid 02-10-2015 02:41 PM

Delta Facebook got hacked.


I'm not pointing fingers but Alaskan pilots. Just saying.

https://localtvkstu.files.wordpress....pg?w=560&h=234

TOGA LK 02-10-2015 02:46 PM

An unusual amount of back and forth lately and I am just not on here enough to keep up with it. After skimming through I am now under the assumption that sick leave is "at risk" compensation. Am I close?

gloopy 02-10-2015 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1822643)
You're WRONG!

Beyonce should be the new face of Delta Air Lines!

The 717 doesn't respect art.

Everybody KNOWS she's got more talent than the 717!

Now give her the tablet, just give it to her! :eek:

OK hold on Timbo, and Ima let you finish, but

http://i.imgur.com/AxppoWI.jpg?1

Number of individuals credited on the album (excluding the artist). Beyonce: 74, Morning Phase: 15.
Number of Producers. Beyonce: 16, Morning Phase: 1.
Number of instruments (not vocals) performed by the artist on the album. Beyonce: 0, Morning Phase: 15.

Wasn't even close. Beyonce can sing (and dance…with 18 hours a day of coaching) but she is no where near "best artist". Not even close.

Beyonce is a highly polished, highly managed end product of a BUNCH of other people doing the vast majority of the work for her. Beck is a true artist and does most of the heavy lifting himself.

They actually got this one right.

gloopy 02-10-2015 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by OldFlyGuy (Post 1823055)
Ultimately the reoute re-construction is limited by having the correct crew & airplane in position for the follow on rotations. However, I sense a strange and wonderful area of complete agreement with PD. Our reroute rules are nonsense. And "interviewing" me for failing to meet a non-negotiated non contractual productivity standard? ***. I'm bringing a union rep and my personal attorney and probably a lawsuit. OFG

Yeah really. Plus set up a video recorder.

Am I required to answer that?
What part of the contract requires me to answer that?
I do not consent to any search.
Am I free to go?

scambo1 02-10-2015 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1823184)
OK hold on Timbo, and Ima let you finish, but

http://i.imgur.com/AxppoWI.jpg?1

Number of individuals credited on the album (excluding the artist). Beyonce: 74, Morning Phase: 15.
Number of Producers. Beyonce: 16, Morning Phase: 1.
Number of instruments (not vocals) performed by the artist on the album. Beyonce: 0, Morning Phase: 15.

Wasn't even close. Beyonce can sing (and dance…with 18 hours a day of coaching) but she is no where near "best artist". Not even close.

Beyonce is a highly polished, highly managed end product of a BUNCH of other people doing the vast majority of the work for her. Beck is a true artist and does most of the heavy lifting himself.

They actually got this one right.

I think you misunderstood Timbo. Beyoncé is art. Beck is an artist. I wish Kim Kardashian would sit on her fake husband. What a turd...either of them, you choose.


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