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Roadkill 02-09-2015 12:04 PM

Will the EFB surface tablet run a Microsoft excel 2007 file?
Also, I can't figure out this charging... first the tablet charges and THEN the KB, IF you have the tablet on? What if the sleep/screen saver on tablet has kicked in, does the KB charge?
I keep plugging it in, on, and leaving it, never have reasonable charge. Then when I DO check and see 100% charged, I turn it off and don't touch it, a week later I turn it on and it's 17% charged!! What's happening to the power, how to I get this turd to keep itself charged for a trip?
Thx, sorry such a newb on this but don't have a DVD/CD player right now to watch that training CD they sent me.
THX

IAV84DAL 02-09-2015 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by DeadHead (Post 1822388)
So I'll ask you again, with all aspects of the contract remaining for the most part status quo, what percentage increase in compensation would, in your mind, justify the elimination of the current PWA profit sharing?

I reject the premise of your question.

IAV84DAL 02-09-2015 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by shoelu (Post 1822373)
Profit Sharing is written into the CBA. If the plan is ever terminated it triggers an automatic re-opener to negotiate its replacement.

A COMMITTMENT to profit sharing is written into the CBA. I mean if you are going to imply I'm lying we should both get the verbiage right. Because in fairness, if the plan is ever terminated its also possible the negotiations would do away with PS in favor of guaranteed pay.

80ktsClamp 02-09-2015 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1822350)
Don't sweat it shoelu. IAV84DAL has been banned a bunch for being a troll and using multiple screen names. He's here for one purpose only and that is to aid management into making pilots believe that profit sharing isn't worth fighting to keep. Management will have a nearly impossible task taking it away, so their tactic now is to get us to relinquish it voluntarily. IAV84DAL is here to facilitate that effort on behalf of management. When he spoke about your plan, he was just pulling it out of his backside. You corrected him, but it won't matter. He's here on behalf of a specific agenda.

Carl

Any profit sharing givebacks/trades are self starters from the union. There are no indications that it is on the company's desire list as we are in line with most of the other company work groups.

shoelu 02-09-2015 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by IAV84DAL (Post 1822385)
So a commitment to Profit Sharing is included in the Pilot CBA. But as it stands now its generated through the corporate by laws. As it is to all employees, correct?

Not correct. Profit sharing does of course originate from corporate by laws but its inclusion is written into the contract. If the by laws are changed eliminating PS, an immediate re-opener is triggered to replace it. The contract does not preclude the Board of Directors from ever canceling it but it does necessitate a replacement in that eventuality. I'm not sure if other unions at SWA have this requirement for a replacement in lieu of PS, but the pilot CBA most definitely does.

From our CBA:

SECTION 19: RETIREMENT
A. SOUTHWEST AIRLINES PROFIT SHARING PLAN
1. It is recognized that the pilots of Southwest Airlines depend on Southwest Airlines Profit Sharing Plan (referred to in this section as the "Plan") to provide for a significant portion of the pilots' retirement program.
2. Should the Southwest Airlines Board of Directors take action to terminate the Plan, this Agreement will be reopened for the limited purpose of negotiating a plan to replace the Profit Sharing Plan.

mark350 02-09-2015 12:17 PM

"At risk compensation... blah blah... at risk... blah blah..."

How do you block the broken record's (IAV84dal) posts?

Even us long-time lurkers have our limits...

shoelu 02-09-2015 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by IAV84DAL (Post 1822400)
A COMMITTMENT to profit sharing is written into the CBA. I mean if you are going to imply I'm lying we should both get the verbiage right. Because in fairness, if the plan is ever terminated its also possible the negotiations would do away with PS in favor of guaranteed pay.

A COMMITTMENT to pay rates and work rules are also written into the CBA. Because in fairness if management ever decided to stop paying us in US dollars in favor of not giving us any cash, we could renegotiate the contract and decide to work for free!

I'm not implying you're lying (or just woefully misinformed), I'm proving it.

Check Essential 02-09-2015 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by IAV84DAL (Post 1822385)
So a commitment to Profit Sharing is included in the Pilot CBA. But as it stands now its generated through the corporate by laws. As it is to all employees, correct?

I'm not sure what point you are making, but you are correct.
The legal and contractual structure of their plan is somewhat different than ours but its still basically the same thing. It's "at risk" compensation that varies with the company's profits.

The pilots participate in the corporate plan on the same basis as all other employees. Its a deeply ingrained part of their vaunted "culture" over there but yes, the corporation could theoretically end the plan if they wish.
If they do that however, the pilots have contractual protection. It would trigger an immediate reopening of the pilot contract to negotiate a "replacement" plan.

Their plan is also significantly more detailed and complex than ours.
Depending on individual tax circumstances, in some respects its a lot better.
Its geared more toward retirement savings rather than annual cash compensation.

Here's the Southwest plan:
Warning --> it will put you to sleep.

Southwest Airlines Co. ProfitSharing Plan

IAV84DAL 02-09-2015 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1822415)
I'm not sure what point you are making, but you are correct.
The legal and contractual structure of their plan is somewhat different than ours but its still basically the same thing. It's "at risk" compensation that varies with the company's profits.

The pilots participate in the corporate plan on the same basis as all other employees. Its a deeply ingrained part of their vaunted "culture" over there but yes, the corporation could theoretically end the plan if they wish.
If they do that however, the pilots have contractual protection. It would trigger an immediate reopening of the pilot contract to negotiate a "replacement" plan.

Their plan is also significantly more detailed and complex than ours.
Depending on individual tax circumstances, in some respects its a lot better.
Its geared more toward retirement savings rather than annual cash compensation.

Here's the Southwest plan:
Warning --> it will put you to sleep.

Southwest Airlines Co. ProfitSharing Plan

Attention Shoelu......

IAV84DAL 02-09-2015 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by shoelu (Post 1822412)
A COMMITTMENT to pay rates and work rules are also written into the CBA. Because in fairness if management ever decided to stop paying us in US dollars in favor of not giving us any cash, we could renegotiate the contract and decide to work for free!

I'm not implying you're lying (or just woefully misinformed), I'm proving it.

Your accusation has been disproven shoe. Accept it. And the subsequent attempt at hysterical metaphor as an assertion that Profit Sharing is contractually guaranteed suggests you are either lying or just woefully misinformed.

You owe me an apology.


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