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Yeah, I saw that play. To add insult to injury, Clinton Ha Ha Dix missed a tackle that allowed the seaslug to score.

I'm surprised guys are actually doing the bull**** survey. DALPA is going to do what they think is best for us. I learned that last contract. I will not be wasting my time on a survey this time. Mark me down as a "no" vote for the first TA we get. Don't even have to read it. I know it will not meet my expectations.

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Originally Posted by satchip (Post 1719947)

Yeah, I saw that play. To add insult to injury, Clinton Ha Ha Dix missed a tackle that allowed the seaslug to score.

Ha Ha still has lots of rings.

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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1719969)

How do you see that improving your personal situation or that of your fellow pilots going forward?

If you were saying that you carefully filled out your survey, gave input to your reps, participated in the process and when a TA came out and it did not meet your needs/desires and you voted "No" while looking for the option to vote "Oh Hell No, Stick It Up Your Ass", I would say right on brotha!! Instead you leave me with this.

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1719934)

Denny's SEA Seahawks stole an Auburn play for that 2nd TD.

Russell Wilson Read Option Touchdown Pass Was Carbon Copy of Auburn Touchdown Pass in Iron Bowl

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How 'bout them SeaHawks! Was at my favorite watering hole (you know the one fig) to watch the game and got side tracked for most of it!

Hey FTB, all I can say is.......isn't copycatting the sincerest form of flattery?! And......whatever works!

Hey Buzz, how many times did Aaron throw Sherman's way.;)

Denny

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Originally Posted by Hillbilly (Post 1719997)

+1..............

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1719514)

The problem is that the survey is purposely constructed with multiple choices...not just yes or no. The multiple choices are there to dilute purely yes or no votes. Why DALPA does this is another open question.

Carl

ALPA puts a lot of time into the wording of the survey questions. They are trying to steer the results where they want them to be.

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1719903)

My reps and other reps described it as an avalanche of emails and voicemails against CDO's. Angry emails and voicemails. I also heard they got virtually no comments in support of CDO's.

Exactly my point. Nor did they receive any emails in support of 5:15 ADG or the A330 rest bunk. Constituents rarely, if ever, send unsolicited input when they're happy with what they see.

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1719903)

But here they are again on the survey, and it's the hallmark of the highly effective Moak political machine we still have here. They don't mind at all losing this initially by the great unwashed throwing their weight around. This time they'll just show up in the TA knowing full well that few pilots will vote an otherwise acceptable TA down because of the inclusion of CDO's. When they want something, they never ever stop trying.

My glass-is-half-full mentality contemplates another possible, that of DALPA thinking about what the Company might come after and wanting to gauge our opinion on those subjects. I for one am happy to be able to tell my reps in no uncertain terms how I feel about each of these subjects.

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1719903)

I'll try to remember this post next time the usual suspects here talk about how the 62% C2012 vote was the best proof of an accurate and fair reading of the pilot group.

You and I both know that there is a world of difference between a poll or survey, which presupposes that little to no action has yet taken place on the subject at hand and a vote on a subject after such action has been taken.

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Originally Posted by Xray678 (Post 1720146)

ALPA puts a lot of time into the wording of the survey questions. They are trying to steer the results where they want them to be.

I agree with the first part of your statement, but disagree with the second. My read of the survey is that they're trying very hard to provide us with options -- not just yes or no, but this vs. that. As many questions are preceded with explanations that read like pro/con papers, I have no sense that they're trying to steer my answers in one direction or another.