Part in jest, part in frustration.

This company is so knee jerk. They just had a huge celebration of HND opening. They pulled out all the stops in SEA for HND. Kinda like them spending a ton of money on the 747-400 lie flat mods, and then .....oh never mind! All in good fun.

Their decisions cost a lot of money.

TEN

PS. I hate HND! I love NRT!

TEN

Please be careful and more considerate with your language on a public forum. Using the "R" word is akin to using the "N" word or any other detestable form of inflammatory language. Many participants on this forum have children or siblings with developmental disabilities.

FSU coach Jimbo Fisher apologizes for using word ‘retarded’
nov 13, 2012
By Post Staffer
Florida State coach Jimbo Fisher apologized Monday for using the term “retarded” in response to a question about his team’s ranking in the BCS standings that determine which teams play for the national championship.
After being asked about Florida State’s being 10th in the BCS behind three Southeastern Conference teams with two losses, he asked “how retarded is it?”
A few hours later, Fisher apologized.
“That’s not the way I think,” Fisher said. “It was a poor choice of words. I didn’t mean to offend anyone in any way.”

We need to have a word with Airbus too. I hear the Airbus pilots are called that on every landing. Im sure he didnt mean it, the way you think.

TEN

ATL put the same message out on effects some contract changes can have. There is still a vocal group who wants CDO's back.

Are you saying that we've been surveyed about CDOs before?

I really don't think Hauenstein makes any knee jerk reactions. They might appear to be that, but I highly doubt they are. Sometimes bad decisions are made that looked good on paper, and it's best to cut your losses before they amount to anything substantial. Hauenstein/Cortelyu are the best in the business... I think they have a pretty good track record in that regard too.

I see the opposite problem with Yes or No questions. Were I one of those (which I'm not) who liked CDOs in a former life and would like them back under certain conditions, I'd like to be able to say that, as the survey currently allows me to do. Otherwise, I could only select Yes and then be quite disappointed when I get back a TA that has CDOs with unacceptable terms.

As it is, I had the opportunity to say No, and that's what I did.

Yes, in the same manner that many DALPA-oids around here say is the best survey of all...a vote. CDO's were voted OUT by reps to secure a 117 agreement. Why are we even still talking about this? The pilots spoke through their reps, yet here's the same question back again in the survey. That's why I made the TIC remark of keep surveying pilots until the pilots answer the survey correctly.

Carl

The ATL reps had input into the survey construction just as the SLC reps did. Just because the ATL and SLC reps are crowing about how some of the things they think we "want" are concessionary is no reason to have hope in them. Weren't these bases in favor of CDOs before they were against them?

They "heard us loud and clear" and jettisoned the CDOs from being part of the 117 agreement, yet here they are again. And why is that?

No doubt there are some amongst are midst that "want CDOs back," but do you think there is any way in hell that that number is above 50%???? Do they really even need to ask?

It really doesn't matter a hill of beans what we put in the survey. Ultimately MD, the NC, and to a lesser degree, the MEC, will have the final (unaccountable) say. I filled mine out just for grins. But I have about as much expectation that the will of the group will be followed as I do in winning the next Powerball.

Perhaps they're just floating all of these concessionary ideas our way so if they "stand firm" against the majority of them, they can then declare "victory" for our "historic C2015" contract. Sign here boys, it could've been a lot worse...