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Check Essential 09-04-2014 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1719274)
I know there are still a few days before the AE bid closes, but I'm a low 11,XXX seniority # and there are only 17 pilots senior to me with a bid in for NYC717A. At this rate we might have 717 street Captains.

That "senior to me" number can be highly misleading.

NYC717A might be their 3rd or 4th choice after what are essentially throw away bids. (747A, 777A, etc.)

tsquare 09-04-2014 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 1719260)
So if we see a 25% raise on day one but have SDP's I should vote no? I don't want to have to make the decision to vote yes on a contract that is otherwise good but has SDP's snuck in. We shouldn't even have anything about those in the survey or in C2015. I thought they already figured out we didn't want those. They keep coming up because the company really wants them.

I couldn't care less how you vote. I don't like them, I don't want that camel in our tent. For me, it is a one issue item. It is the only one I have ever had, and I probably wouldn't even be talking about them if they didn't keep coming up on these forums. To me... for me... they are unsafe (unless, as I said they are so onerous that the company wouldn't want them and they would be barely recognizable as a SDP).

YMMV Vote what is best for YOU.

TeddyKGB 09-04-2014 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1719287)
That "senior to me" number can be highly misleading.

NYC717A might be their 3rd or 4th choice after what are essentially throw away bids. (747A, 777A, etc.)

Makes sense. I guess I should know that by now. I'm still figuring out how to read my paystub & PBS :confused:

forgot to bid 09-04-2014 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1719287)
That "senior to me" number can be highly misleading.

NYC717A might be their 3rd or 4th choice after what are essentially throw away bids. (747A, 777A, etc.)

Or ###A at 30%... ###A at 50%.... and so on then 717.

gzsg 09-04-2014 08:41 AM

How do the additional 5 Virgin U.S. routes affect our JV scope language?

Has DALPA put anything out on this?

Karnak 09-04-2014 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 1719265)
You nailed it. This is how the insiders operate. They know they can sell C2015 with threats and false promises.

Im 100% sure CDOs will be in C2015.

I hope so!

I liked them when I flew them on two different fleets. I would bid them if they were available. Putting them in the survey would be a good idea for gauging pilot preference.

Just curious; have you ever seen your personal opinions validated by the pilot group in a vote? I can't remember a membership ratification vote where your plea for "vote no" was held by anywhere near a majority of your fellow pilots.

I think you were even among the 12% that voted no to the unilateral pay increases in 2003/04. Is that correct?

scambo1 09-04-2014 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 1719312)
How do the additional 5 Virgin U.S. routes affect our JV scope language?

Has DALPA put anything out on this?

Do we have any virgin JV language?

Doug Masters 09-04-2014 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1719253)
Put 1 vote in the no column then.....

Putting 1 in every column doesnt work. I tried ;)

80ktsClamp 09-04-2014 09:24 AM

:(

Originally Posted by Karnak (Post 1719320)
I hope so!

I liked them when I flew them on two different fleets. I would bid them if they were available. Putting them in the survey would be a good idea for gauging pilot preference.

Just curious; have you ever seen your personal opinions validated by the pilot group in a vote? I can't remember a membership ratification vote where your plea for "vote no" was held by anywhere near a majority of your fellow pilots.

I think you were even among the 12% that voted no to the unilateral pay increases in 2003/04. Is that correct?

...speaking of agendas....

Justdoinmyjob 09-04-2014 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1719287)
That "senior to me" number can be highly misleading.

NYC717A might be their 3rd or 4th choice after what are essentially throw away bids. (747A, 777A, etc.)

It's my 7th or 8th choice.


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