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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 1646915)
To answer the reserve question there will no longer be a requirement to acknowledge a trip however a reserve will be required to notify the company by 3 hours prior to report if for some reason he is unable to fly the trip. It's a 10 hour leash effectively.
As for this part of your post, I still don't see how you can not call them back for 10 hours, yet still be legal for an assignment that reports in 3 hours when you will need 10 hours prospective rest from the point that you acknowledged/knew about the assignment. For example, you go on long call at midnight. First 2 hours nothing. At 2am however, they give you something that reports 13 hours later at 15:00. If you don't check your schedule and acknowledge or call back between 2am and 5am, how are you legal to do that trip? A 10 hour leash would mean a 20 hour long call. It seems like someone is trying to sell the TA by redefining what "leash" means, and confusing prospective with retroactive in order to do it. I still don't see how a 13 hour long call means anything other than a 3 hour call back leash in order to be FAR legal in getting your 10 hours prospective rest. |
Originally Posted by CGfalconHerc
(Post 1647446)
Exactly!^^^
My rep told me they are just responding to guys complaining in the lounge about "unproductive" 30 hr layovers..I told him I'm plenty productive with an IPA and wings at TacoMac in CLT..he wasn't impressed. I get the feeling this is a done deal. Without MEMRAT, they're gonna pretty much guarantee the resurrection of DPA..IMHO. Probably how the vast majority of us feel. I also thought DPA was done but no memrat and I sincerely believe we will have a representation vote prior to C2015. When I asked my reps months ago about split duty I knew it was a done deal, "Guys want to fly them!" was the response. GMAFB! Yes that's #1 on everybody's list. It is an embarrassment even agreeing to these in a TA with Delta earning more money than at anytime in its history. Truly amazing. I'm sure the company is shaking in their boots at the thought of Sec. 6 just around the corner. |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 1647505)
It would pay 10:30 under the new TA.
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These one leg out at night and one leg back in the morning have been a staple for me. I have never seen anything less than 9:00 hrs w a deadhead leg and 10:30 with no DH. It will be a huge loss for those of us that fly a lot of them and a huge WIN for the company. Between that and the safety aspect, it's a NO. And what's with the pay no credit? How did that even get in there?? Send it back.
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Originally Posted by TheManager
(Post 1647491)
turtle heading
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
(Post 1647496)
Are you guys getting this? This is typical. For every one guy who gushes about how great CDO's are (because he gets to be home all day, every day and has convinced himself he doesn't need that much sleep), there are 100 with stories just like this one. This is one of the worst safety issues I've seen in my career... and it's being thrust upon us by the people who are supposed to be representing us and have as their motto, "schedule with safety." UNSAT. :mad:
Yea, you'll be home all day......completely drained and too tired to enjoy it. |
Originally Posted by LateFolder
(Post 1647437)
As a longtime in base senior reserve I find the 1.5 pay no credit attractive. I would like to hear your concerns.
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
(Post 1647456)
Is a same day/next day WS supposed to be a proffer? I just checked my schedule at noon and there's a WS on there for tomorrow. Placed on there at 1100.
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Originally Posted by FedElta
(Post 1645626)
Segue: So I went to see "Million Dollar Arm" tonight in Newnan, Ga. Much to my surprise there was a full screen ad/promotion for the DPA that ran for the entire audience just before the feature.
Regardless of my overall feelings, this was a bit unseemly to me, and felt like airing dirty laundry in the wrong forum for Delta Air Lines pilots......am I way off base here ? Regards, BG If there is no memory rat on this TA and anything goes awry with it down the line, anything, and the DPA gets a shot in the arm that will outdo any pre movie advertising. It's either spend the money now on a memory rat or spend the money later fighting the DPA. I'm curious what their move will be. https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...kb6de90d8-k6Fg |
Originally Posted by Alan Shore
(Post 1647514)
MEC Alert just came out:
Special MEC Meeting The MEC will meet in special session May 21-May 22, beginning at 9AM each day, to consider LOA 14-01 concerning FAR 117 and changes to the Pilot Working Agreement. The meeting will take place at the airport Marriott in Atlanta, 4711 Best Road, College Park, GA 30337. The MEC will conduct the meeting in open session, and pilots are encouraged to attend. B) Can we see the language? Is that out yet and I missed it? |
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