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Old 05-26-2015 | 03:44 PM
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With this stuff! Using this, with legos, you could build one pretty bad-*** C-152.

Nah, you would want to use Kragle.
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Old 05-26-2015 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by qball
What if the NC passes a real turd like C2012 (see what I did there...do ya) I will vote on the relative merits on any TA passed to us but isn't it better to let the MEC know now what is or isn't accepatable before that happens?

That. Was. What. The. Survey. Was. For.

I am clearly missing something.
Old 05-26-2015 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by qball
What if the NC passes a real turd like C2012 (see what I did there...do ya) I will vote on the relative merits on any TA passed to us but isn't it better to let the MEC know now what is or isn't accepatable before that happens?

That. Was. What. The. Survey. Was. For.

I am clearly missing something.
Old 05-26-2015 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Professor
That. Was. What. The. Survey. Was. For.

I am clearly missing something.
The survey is not valid.

At that time the very large hourly increases far beyond ours at American were not in place.

The Q1 American earnings of $1.4 billion had not been announced.

Q1 is the weakest for the air lines.

American will earn $3.1 billion in Q2 and over $10 billion for 2015.

Had Delta not missed the hedge, we would also earn $10 billion this year. No hedges in 2016 mean we will earn $10 billion.

Certainly the Delta pilots desires would be MUCH higher now.

IMO the dark side will use the dated survey against us on hourly rates and ignore our ask for quality of life.

For instance, no additional time with our families.

Take the rumor of 5 hours per vacation time pay, no credit. This will certainly add pay, but not time with our families.
Old 05-26-2015 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Professor
That. Was. What. The. Survey. Was. For.

I am clearly missing something.
You clearly are missing something. We all are. It's called "survey results," and it's the only way we can measure the performance of the NC and MEC as it relates to our contract specifically, and how well they represent us in general.
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I can't answer questions involving non existent black helicopters, time travel and the idea that the NC is so stupid they can't look at an airline's updated paytable

I'm getting a burrito.
Old 05-26-2015 | 04:08 PM
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I bet over 50% of our pilots are unaware of the new American pilot pay rates.

Why didn't our leadership email a table with the new rates to our pilots?

Are the new American hourly pay rates on the Delta ALPA website?

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Old 05-26-2015 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
You clearly are missing something. We all are. It's called "survey results," and it's the only way we can measure the performance of the NC and MEC as it relates to our contract specifically, and how well they represent us in general.
BUT, before chipotle rewards my hard work and take my $7.89USD in exchange for their tasty tasty flour tortilla wrapped magic pill........

DUDE. dude dude dude.

I would like you and gzsg to pick up the phone. Dial the number of your very own personal LEC reps and say the following:

"Good evening, thank you for your service on my behalf. If you have time I would like to ask you two questions. First, has the MEC given the negotiating committee new direction in light of the American contract and other market changes? Second, if I may, why aren't the contract survey results being released by the MEC?"

Do this. Then please report back to the class what you have been told. P-R-E-C-I-S-E-L-Y.

Then, we can rejoin this discussion after my burrito.

Namaste.
Old 05-26-2015 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by gzsg
I bet over 50% of our pilots are unaware of the new American pilot pay rates.

Why didn't our leadership email a table with the new rates to our pilots?
What's the status of the AA pilots pensions?
Old 05-26-2015 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8

Unless, of course, the leaks are BS, and the leakers are liars. I couldn't quite get a response from you on the other thread, btw. Do the leaks constitute true (hence valuable) information, or not?
It feels like you are clumsily baiting me with a false choice.

Certainly, there are leaks, rumors, reports, trial balloons, what have you. One size does not fit all. Some are credible, and some are not. Some are lies, some are half-truths. Some are dead-on accurate. I suppose everyone has his own criteria for determining their value.

I reach my own conclusions as to the validity (or lack thereof) of various tidbits of information that make their way down to us. I imagine you do the same.

And to think there aren't guys in DALPA feeding management the inside scoop is fairly naive, IMHO.
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