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Old 06-03-2015 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Flare
How can I leave a note for scheduling to award me a green slip that I put in for? When I was called for one last week, the lady said "since I don't see a message in here, even though you're flying, we'll wait 10 minutes and move on." How do I leave a message that I don't require approval and to just award me the green slip in case I am flying or unavailable to answer the phone?
I flew with a guy who just called the schedulers before we got into the jet and told them, "I'll take whatever you give me while I'm flying." They were cool with it and he got the GS.
Old 06-03-2015 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by dalad
IMO, I was the sole pilot most egregiously affected by the JV imbalance, so therefore $29,900,000 goes to me, and I retire early so some of you can move up a notch.
I nominate dalad as new negotiating committee chairman.

That's how you set an opening position.

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Old 06-03-2015 | 09:47 AM
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July bid pack available via Navtech PBS Desktop App (at least my category, I don't know how or if it's possible to switch categories within the App). Discovered it accidentally when I downloaded the new version of the App.
Old 06-03-2015 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Maybe so.

But had you had more flying, more pilots would've moved up in categories, possibly upgraded. Scope costs money.
That's the issue. With this grievance settlement, we've set the legal precedent that scope violations become a permanent reset by paying a little money. Having a voluntary Scope section hurts pilots the most depending on how many more years they have to work with no defensible Scope section. In my opinion, the payout should be based on a sliding scale with the highest payouts going to pilots with the greater number of years remaining.

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Old 06-03-2015 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Hrkdrivr
July bid pack available via Navtech PBS Desktop App (at least my category, I don't know how or if it's possible to switch categories within the App). Discovered it accidentally when I downloaded the new version of the App.

Thanks.

Weird that it is available through the DA but the .pdf bid package is not available.
Old 06-03-2015 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by dalad
IMO, I was the sole pilot most egregiously affected by the JV imbalance, so therefore $29,900,000 goes to me, and I retire early so some of you can move up a notch.
I think those of us who have retired recently should get some too. After all, we were flying while this violation was going on.
Old 06-03-2015 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Flare
How can I leave a note for scheduling to award me a green slip that I put in for? When I was called for one last week, the lady said "since I don't see a message in here, even though you're flying, we'll wait 10 minutes and move on." How do I leave a message that I don't require approval and to just award me the green slip in case I am flying or unavailable to answer the phone?
call them and tell them to leave it on your line and you'll accept it.
Old 06-03-2015 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
Based on how the note and stock was distributed, somehow I don't think they are dividing it by the entire pilot group. More like by those pilots that were affected by it. Namely, those pilots in international categories. Think about it. By being below the minimum, there was less flying in those categories to bid. It didn't affect the NB fleets. Also, since it was from April 1, 2011 to March 31, 2015, I'll bet there is a sliding scale as to how much each transoceanic pilot was affected. I doubt a pilot not even on the seniority list during that time will get anything.
it affects everyone, not just WB pilots. Think about how many NB pilots didn't get to go to a WB fleet because of this-or those of us that were displaced to a NB because of it
Old 06-03-2015 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
That's the issue. With this grievance settlement, we've set the legal precedent that scope violations become a permanent reset by paying a little money.
How much would an arbitrator have awarded us if it had gone to the System Board and we won?
Old 06-03-2015 | 01:00 PM
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Really if they wanted to make it fair the guys that were laid off would get the most then the guys that stagnated for years. The guys that were 777 capts for five extra years because of age 65 would get none
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