Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
Gets Weekends Off
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I think that was one of the options that was discussed. The Company did this to achieve three things. To put a stop to unionization activity, avoid 3b4 being triggered, and to poke a stick in our eye.
Actions such as this may have unforeseen results. While I don't begrudge anyone good fortune, I think this will have the effect of galvanizing the pilots.
Actions such as this may have unforeseen results. While I don't begrudge anyone good fortune, I think this will have the effect of galvanizing the pilots.
I know there will be the usual comments 'slap in the face' 'insulting' etc... regarding non contract pay raises. Really? Come on... Keep in mind that we were offered practically the same thing in our TA. We elected to stick with what we've got, and to reorganize our bargaining agent, which is in process and can't be engaged until that process is complete. I'm glad that this will help trigger 3.b raises if available, that keeps us in the game. This non contract raise shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. We'll get ours when we get our act together again and return to negotiating. The key though will be to avoid the concessions and improve the important areas that were not addressed. Be glad for your fellow employees, and look forward to our raises that we deserve and will achieve. This only helps our cause. And keep in mind, our profit sharing will outpace theirs if we don't complete the process in a timely manner, and we will be getting raises through 3.b possibly as well.
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3.b4 is a rolling 18 months, and it was just triggered in April wasn't it? Does that mean we won't be able to take advantage of this raise?
Your viewpoint (the contract determines the method of valuation, not the required payment) is one that hadn't occurred to me, and may have merit (at least so far as the company is applying it goes...)--but that's not how I read it.
Golly, imprecise/weak language in our PWA??
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I know there will be the usual comments 'slap in the face' 'insulting' etc... regarding non contract pay raises. Really? Come on... Keep in mind that we were offered practically the same thing in our TA. We elected to stick with what we've got, and to reorganize our bargaining agent, which is in process and can't be engaged until that process is complete. I'm glad that this will help trigger 3.b raises if available, that keeps us in the game. This non contract raise shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. We'll get ours when we get our act together again and return to negotiating. The key though will be to avoid the concessions and improve the important areas that were not addressed. Be glad for your fellow employees, and look forward to our raises that we deserve and will achieve. This only helps our cause. And keep in mind, our profit sharing will outpace theirs if we don't complete the process in a timely manner, and we will be getting raises through 3.b possibly as well.
I'm certainly happy for my fellow Delta employees. The "slap" comes from a 1 Dec pay raise to avoid 3B4. A 1 Jan pay raise that coincides with the PS change would have been more appropriate. I'm curious what the financial models show as the actual increase in compensation. Any word on that yet?
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