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Old 02-03-2016, 03:38 PM
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Reserve trip assignment rules and the Yellow slip process at Delta suck balls. That's all I have to say about that.
try any of the other ones where senior guys just get put at the bottom of the list everyday and you and I would fly every trip that we had days available. Not saying it's perfect, but it could be way worse. The bucket thing is nice. Except when you have a spill trip that gets you 2 hours short of alv for one month, and 10 hours short of group 2 for the next month....fml
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Old 02-03-2016, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone View Post
Good, now we wont feel guilty fighting for what we deserve.

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RA was never our friend regardless of what Moak and Donutbelli said. I wouldn't have felt guilty fighting with RA still here, but it will feel a lot better walking a picket line with Ed in charge.
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Old 02-03-2016, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by CloudPilot57 View Post
http://m.startribune.com/delta-air-lines-ceo-anderson-to-retire-president-takes-over/367567191/


So is this good, bad or indifferent? Forsee any issues for guys in the pool?
This is one opinion out of a possible 13,000 or so, but it's a bad situation gone worse. RA was a good politician but was guided by the same Wall St mentality that governs EB. Neither guy is truly a friend of the pilot group but now the pilot -management relationship will be more overtly adversarial. If you search back through some of the other threads on APC regarding EB, he's made some cringe-worthy public comments regarding his disdain for the pilot group. If I were a DAL poolie right now, I'd be a bit nervous about that option. Take a look at our current fleet and future fleet plans compared to the other legacies, then look at our outsourcing of premium international flying. Couple those things with what is shaping up to be a very adversarial relationship with management and that should give you an idea where we seem to be headed. I hope I'm proven wrong, but do think very carefully about your options if you're in the pool.
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Old 02-03-2016, 04:24 PM
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W.T.F is up with the SIDA changes? Will all flight crew now be required to go through KCM no matter what? Better expand KCM.
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Old 02-03-2016, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotFrog View Post
W.T.F is up with the SIDA changes? Will all flight crew now be required to go through KCM no matter what? Better expand KCM.
Looks that way. After the last SIDA renewal in SLC, I wasn't going to renew it again anyways now that we have KCM. It was almost a 2 hour ordeal and a complete joke. I'll gladly toss that badge back to them.
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Old 02-03-2016, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy View Post
RA was never our friend regardless of what Moak and Donutbelli said. I wouldn't have felt guilty fighting with RA still here, but it will feel a lot better walking a picket line with Ed in charge.
Sounds cool and all, but you don't really think this over-reaching government is going to let us strike do you?
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Old 02-03-2016, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Seaslap8 View Post
Sounds cool and all, but you don't really think this over-reaching government is going to let us strike do you?
Walking a picket line is different from being on strike. Some here know that.
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Old 02-03-2016, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by trustbutverify View Post
This is one opinion out of a possible 13,000 or so, but it's a bad situation gone worse. RA was a good politician but was guided by the same Wall St mentality that governs EB. Neither guy is truly a friend of the pilot group but now the pilot -management relationship will be more overtly adversarial. If you search back through some of the other threads on APC regarding EB, he's made some cringe-worthy public comments regarding his disdain for the pilot group. If I were a DAL poolie right now, I'd be a bit nervous about that option. Take a look at our current fleet and future fleet plans compared to the other legacies, then look at our outsourcing of premium international flying. Couple those things with what is shaping up to be a very adversarial relationship with management and that should give you an idea where we seem to be headed. I hope I'm proven wrong, but do think very carefully about your options if you're in the pool.
Agree, get away from the bottom 10-20% as quickly as you can.
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Old 02-03-2016, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy View Post
Reserve trip assignment rules and the Yellow slip process at Delta suck balls. That's all I have to say about that.


Rocky,

In my opinion the current DAL reserve system is the best that we have had in at least the last 16 years and probably one of the best in the industry.

But who cares about my opinion - lets look at what our peer DAL Pilots think.
There were times when the bottom 15% of Pilots in any category would pretty much all get reserve almost every month. Now reserve is spread throughout all seniority levels and it is not unheard of for the "plug" to get a line in some categories.

So if reserve is so bad now why are guys voluntarily bidding reserve?

I agree that our reserve system can be improved - specifically with regard to SC assignments and also requesting trips if one must fly. Is our system perfect - Hell No, but I think saying the process at DAL "suck(s) balls" is perhaps a bit too harsh.

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Old 02-03-2016, 09:49 PM
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Being senior on reserve is a reasonably good deal! Junior? Not so much.
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