Dudes...Can you be assigned a trip that starts right at the end of a designated rest period if you are on long call? Or do you get 12 hours after the end of your rest before you have to show? Thanks

 

Short answer is yes you can. A reserve is supposed to check their schedule after block in from a trip for this very reason.

Denny

 

Ah, excellent--I'd considered the moved X day to 31 Mar, but not the part about the PB day.

Not sure about the application, though--if I bid off on 1 - 3 Apr as you suggest, what would I be dropping the PB day on? (NB, I have exactly zero experience with PB days.)

Is there a time limit (minimum) on how far out you have to drop a PB day?

Thanks for the pointer...!

 

Too lazy to bust out PWA but my understanding (and more importantly my experience) has always been the opposite of what you just said. As in a 30 hour rest was actually 40 hours off. That could be because they assign res the day prior, so when you start rest they wouldn't have anything for you when the rest ended--I dunno. But even with yellow slips in, it always worked out to at least 40 hours between block in and sign in for next assignment.

 

You should work on that ratio....

It all depends on when you start rest versus where they are in the coverage process, no?

1) If you block in at 2000, start 30-hour rest at 2030, your rest carries you through the second following day at 0230--beyond the point which they are generally covering with reserves (MED exception applies). You're back on long call* at the end of your rest.

2) If you block in at 1000, start 30-hour rest at 1030, your rest carries you through the next day at 1630--within the period that they are covering with reserves. Assuming you meet all the rest of the parameters (RAW score, day bucket, etc.), you'd be quite ripe for that assignment. In that case, especially if you have a long block of on-call, I'd expect them to assign the 30 hours whether you currently need it or not, just to reset you to zero, then roll into the rotation.

3) If there's nothing needing coverage by the time you do your pre-release schedule check, it's a moot point--there's nothing to put on your schedule, so you go to rest then resume long call* afterward.


Sounds like you've generally fallen in scenarios 1 and/or 3; doesn't mean 2 can't/doesn't happen....

*Or short call, if so assigned--I don't know how common that is (30-hr followed by pre-assigned SC)

 

Do you guys think that asking to be on shortcall might get you out of a long call trip assignment when the do the noonish throw down if next day's assignments?

 

717 is way better, it will take more than a year to get to MSP, and the training from 717 to 88 is only 7 sims right now (though that could change.) the commute to Detroit is much shorter than nyc so I would take 717 then get to Detroit when you can, that will come much sooner than MSP. It is so much nicer of an airplane to fly. Hotels are cheap in Detroit, you don't have to commute to 3 airports.

 

It's possible, but I always work on the assumption that the worst possible outcome is most likely.

It's not paranoia if they're really out to get you

 

Ferd,

I agree about enjoying Saipan more than Guam, and was sorry to see us drop to so few flights that the layover went away. I've also heard the authorities jacked up the entry fees (like LHR) and overnight the Japanese quit booking.

 

Trips are assigned first. Won't even know you have SC request in until after trips are assigned.