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05-06-2016, 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeF16
Why not get rid of business class international? Why not remove crew meals? How about reducing per diem by a nickel per hour? Now you have to wear your hat to the pool while on layover...
Every contract violation needs to be rigorously fought, there are no little fish when the company violates the contract.
Every contract violation needs to be rigorously fought, there are no little fish when the company violates the contract.
05-06-2016, 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeF16
Why not get rid of business class international? Why not remove crew meals? How about reducing per diem by a nickel per hour? Now you have to wear your hat to the pool while on layover...
Every contract violation needs to be rigorously fought, there are no little fish when the company violates the contract.
Every contract violation needs to be rigorously fought, there are no little fish when the company violates the contract.
05-06-2016, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeF16
Why not get rid of business class international? Why not remove crew meals? How about reducing per diem by a nickel per hour? Now you have to wear your hat to the pool while on layover...
Every contract violation needs to be rigorously fought, there are no little fish when the company violates the contract.
Every contract violation needs to be rigorously fought, there are no little fish when the company violates the contract.
Originally Posted by Trip7
Those are contractual items. Our PWA AFAIK doesn't stipulate that pilots must have an EC seat on a Domestic DH.
There is no contract violation here but there is a change in the status quo in violation of the Railway Labor Act.
Changes to "working conditions" do not have to be contract violations.
There's a ton of case law on that exact point.
The company could do this if we weren't in section 6. But we are.
Throughout this mandatory period of bargaining required under section 6 of
the RLA and the mediation process set forth in section 155 including the 30 day
cooling-off period after the failure of the mediatory efforts, the parties may
not alter the status quo, i.e., neither party may implement a change in the
actual objective working conditions broadly conceived, whether embodied in
agreements or not.
US Supreme Court
Detroit & Toledo Shore Line Railroad v. United Transportation Union, 396 U.S. 142
(1969).
05-06-2016, 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
We need to be precise in our terminology.
There is no contract violation here but there is a change in the status quo in violation of the Railway Labor Act.
Changes to "working conditions" do not have to be contract violations.
There's a ton of case law on that exact point.
The company could do this if we weren't in section 6. But we are.
There is no contract violation here but there is a change in the status quo in violation of the Railway Labor Act.
Changes to "working conditions" do not have to be contract violations.
There's a ton of case law on that exact point.
The company could do this if we weren't in section 6. But we are.
05-06-2016, 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Bs8080
Whats the junior CA DOH on the 320?
05-06-2016, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Those are contractual items. Our PWA AFAIK doesn't stipulate that pilots must have an EC seat on a Domestic DH.
You sure about that? I thought it was right next to the section that specified how many Greenslips Pilots are required to be available for each month.
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05-06-2016, 06:14 AM
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Not only would EC no longer be available 24 hours prior, changes to "premium" seats are no longer available.
Under the new marketing definitions, all window and aisle seats are "premium", also. Granted, it's not much of a premium, but there is an upcharge.
That means you cannot change to a window or aisle seat, either.
Under the new marketing definitions, all window and aisle seats are "premium", also. Granted, it's not much of a premium, but there is an upcharge.
That means you cannot change to a window or aisle seat, either.
05-06-2016, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by tunes
no, it's not. Try reading the monthly update that went out today from Crew Resources. It clearly states it is no longer available for deadhead bookings or company business. Further, it states that PSUP will not be added to the Comfort Plus upgrade list like the first class upgrade list. Thanks for playing though....
05-06-2016, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeF16
Why not get rid of business class international? Why not remove crew meals? How about reducing per diem by a nickel per hour?
Every contract violation needs to be rigorously fought, there are no little fish when the company violates the contract.
Every contract violation needs to be rigorously fought, there are no little fish when the company violates the contract.
05-06-2016, 07:52 AM
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It may or may not be an intentional stick in the eye. Since I've been able to secure comfort seat on deadhead exactly 0.0 times I can't get too worked up.
However, on the topic of sticks in the eyes.....a spa? They are taking a chunk of the pilot lounge and turning it into....a ********* spa? I can imagine how pilots have been lining up for years begging the company to offer them a spa in the pilot lounge. Or maybe not so much.
Am I being overly sensitive or did that not come across as a bit of an F you?
However, on the topic of sticks in the eyes.....a spa? They are taking a chunk of the pilot lounge and turning it into....a ********* spa? I can imagine how pilots have been lining up for years begging the company to offer them a spa in the pilot lounge. Or maybe not so much.
Am I being overly sensitive or did that not come across as a bit of an F you?
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