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MikeF16 06-11-2016 05:47 AM


Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 2143260)
I suppose you would be right! Funny how you can't volunteer for this (GSWC) but it could be put to you. Or perhaps I was wrong earlier.

I just think I'm in an odd area since this kind of manning situation hasn't really happened here before (although you can definitely tell that something has been done, much less open time this month than the last 3-4). The schedulers are mostly new and probably don't know the contract very well. I probably confused the matter with C. in ALPA scheduling when I kept calling it a GSWC when my intent was better represented by IAWC.

Hey, I know what I mean. I'm just not very good at conveying my intentions into the proper vocabulary.:D

PermaFo 06-11-2016 06:32 AM

Is there anywhere I can go to see my previous training (sim, specifically) schedule or record? Going back 2 years at the most.

Bawlz 06-11-2016 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by captkdobbs (Post 2088933)
OE buy-off notification question:
My trip has the indications of being pulled for OE. I saw a couple posts about the notification from about a year ago and was wondering if there's been any recent consistency as to when the company officially notifies you?
I know "The removal may occur at any time prior to or after the pilot has reported for the rotation, at the Company’s discretion." (Sched handbook p.67)
Just wondering about others' experience with this.

Sorry to revisit this. First time dealing with a possible "pulled for oe" situation. My rotation has "L" next to a few legs and a note that the captain is doing differences training on a different first officer. Do the L's mean I will not be operating those legs? If so, am I excused from that day and can deviate to get myself into position? (This is day one and I commute)

Scoop 06-11-2016 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by Bawlz (Post 2143286)
Sorry to revisit this. First time dealing with a possible "pulled for oe" situation. My rotation has "L" next to a few legs and a note that the captain is doing differences training on a different first officer. Do the L's mean I will not be operating those legs? If so, am I excused from that day and can deviate to get myself into position? (This is day one and I commute)


You will get a call from scheduling the night prior to your rotation. Depending on what training is being given you will most likely be taken off any legs with the "L" beside them.

If you do not receive a call by 2000 the night prior I would call schedule and inquire about it.

Scoop

Bawlz 06-11-2016 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 2143288)
You will get a call from scheduling the night prior to your rotation. Depending on what training is being given you will most likely be taken off any legs with the "L" beside them.

If you do not receive a call by 2000 the night prior I would call schedule and inquire about it.

Scoop

Thanks Scoop

LateFolder 06-11-2016 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 2143095)
It could never happen. Why? Because when you are on reserve there is no such animal as GSWC, only GS. So if you put in for a GS that conflicted with a trip in the next month (which in your example is a regular month) it would be denied due to conflicting with the trip.

Not sure I agree with you. Imagine only two remaining available pilots.

Pilot A on reserve this month regular line next month requests GSWC premium flying.

Pilot B (reg or res) in this month & regular line next month does not request premium flying (imagine important family event)

In this situation would either get an IAWC Inverse Assignment with Conflict? If so shouldn't it go to the volunteer first.

This is a very rare event, the unicorn of trip coverage.

p3flteng 06-11-2016 04:00 PM

Any know the latest Lga parking sitrep? Are we still parking at the top of the garage?

Thanks in advance...!

marcal 06-11-2016 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by p3flteng (Post 2143594)
Any know the latest Lga parking sitrep? Are we still parking at the top of the garage?

Thanks in advance...!


Yes we are until July sometime.

FL370esq 06-11-2016 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by LateFolder (Post 2143564)
Not sure I agree with you. Imagine only two remaining available pilots.

Pilot A on reserve this month regular line next month requests GSWC premium flying.

Pilot B (reg or res) in this month & regular line next month does not request premium flying (imagine important family event)

In this situation would either get an IAWC Inverse Assignment with Conflict? If so shouldn't it go to the volunteer first.

This is a very rare event, the unicorn of trip coverage.

Nope....simply read the PWA (big, long and boring therefore a lot to ask, I know). Herkflyr is kind of right, but for the wrong reason.

In your scenario, Pilot A is asking for something that does not exist under our PWA - a GSWC on reserve. You need to look at 23.N.25 (trip coverage greater than 12 hours) and 23.O.21. (trip coverage less than 12 hours). In each case, a reserve pilot on X days gets an IAWC before a line holder gets a GSWC. Ergo, it would be superfluous for a reserve pilot to submit a GSWC on a transition trip where that pilot alao holds a regular line in the next bid because he/she would have to be be awarded the trip on an IAWC before a regular line pilot received a GSWC.

LateFolder 06-12-2016 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by FL370esq (Post 2143630)
Nope....simply read the PWA (big, long and boring therefore a lot to ask, I know). Herkflyr is kind of right, but for the wrong reason.

In your scenario, Pilot A is asking for something that does not exist under our PWA - a GSWC on reserve. You need to look at 23.N.25 (trip coverage greater than 12 hours) and 23.O.21. (trip coverage less than 12 hours). In each case, a reserve pilot on X days gets an IAWC before a line holder gets a GSWC. Ergo, it would be superfluous for a reserve pilot to submit a GSWC on a transition trip where that pilot alao holds a regular line in the next bid because he/she would have to be be awarded the trip on an IAWC before a regular line pilot received a GSWC.

I still don't agree. A reserve pilot can be on two different type of X days. One is an asterisk reserve X day making him ineligible for a IAWC.


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