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Originally Posted by Paok
(Post 2147046)
I thought I read something about a month ago saying we were getting rid of two duty periods in one days. I read this as "red eye day sleep night flight" but they're still all over the place. So what did they mean? What did we get rid of?
My category (DTW) had some of those trips with two duty periods on the same day, in July. (red eye into ATL, then leave that night for SAN for example). |
Originally Posted by iaflyer
(Post 2147550)
I don't remember reading anything like that, where was it? I dislike those a lot and can't see that I missed them. I had a whole month of them in Jan.
My category (DTW) had some of those trips with two duty periods on the same day, in July. (red eye into ATL, then leave that night for SAN for example). |
Originally Posted by palooza
(Post 2147579)
It was indicated in a c66 letter out of NYC a couple months ago that these mid-day rests were not going to happen anymore. Not sure if that has happened or not for NYC or the whole system, or what. But that's where I read about it.
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Originally Posted by Jetnfast
(Post 2147620)
Just about 100% of the LAX 73N 2 day red eye trips are built this way...9pm-midnight departure flying a transcon to the east coast (mainly TPA, MIA, MCO) day sleep then fly the 6-8pm departure back to LAX arriving about 24 hours TAFB. Productive trips (1030 CR in 24 hours) and easy for a west coast guy because of the minimal body clock hit. The mid rotation red eyes and the red eyes the NYC and ATL guys have are what sucks...landing and finishing a trip on a red eye, no thanks! I think it's very base specific. I don't mind LAX red eyes since most red eye rotations start with them and you get it out of the way early.
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As long as we're *****in' how about getting rid of day trips in NYC -- you know, the base where 85% of pilots commute.
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Originally Posted by palooza
(Post 2147624)
Ok, so how do we get the ones that suck taken off the bids and leave the ones people want?
I hate to say it, but the company is making lots of money on red eyes, especially from LAX. Have you ever seen LAX terminal 5 from 9pm to midnight? Easily rivals Atlanta at peak time of day, there are pax everywhere! I'm not saying I love them, but I don't mind them once in a while. I guess it's easier when you start a west coast trip with a red eye versus east coast guys ending a trip with one. We fly them to thin markets to...IND, CMH, CVG, RDU etc and they are mostly/all full. SWA is losing money compared to delta on these routes since they don't fly red eyes (at least not yet). I am pretty sure LAX 73N has the highest percentage of domestic red eyes system wide, so when guys from other bases talk about them I take it with a grain of salt. |
Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
(Post 2147625)
As long as we're *****in' how about getting rid of day trips in NYC -- you know, the base where 85% of pilots commute.
No way man, there are easily enough locals to do the vast majority of them(myself included, 1 night in a hotel in months!). Besides, there only about 15% turns on avg in most categories anyway in NYC.....on the 88 it seems pretty rare for guys to do them if they don't want to, at least in large numbers. |
Except, of course, for reserves.
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
(Post 2147651)
Except, of course, for reserves.
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Originally Posted by palooza
(Post 2147579)
It was indicated in a c66 letter out of NYC a couple months ago that these mid-day rests were not going to happen anymore. Not sure if that has happened or not for NYC or the whole system, or what. But that's where I read about it.
14 848 LAX 1425 SEA.1701 2.36 0.06 1.18 3751 2150 SEA 1819 SLC.2118 1.59 0.01 1.48 3856 1674 SLC 2306 PDX.2355 1.49 0.02 3828 PDX 21.19/HILTON DTWN PDX 6.24BL 5.39DC PWA FDP/SKD MAX/ACT MAX 10.25/11.30/14.00 A- LAST ACCLIMATED CITY-LAX REST CLASS- 12.00/12.30/ 9.00 PWA FDP/SKD MAX/ACT MAX 10.25/11.30/14.00 B- LAST ACCLIMATED CITY-LAX REST CLASS- 12.00/14.00/ 9.00 PAY REPORT TIME 2144/15 ACTUAL REPORT TIME 2144/15 15 1627 PDX 2245 JFK.0646 5.01 0.15 3801 JFK 13.39/JFK CROWNE PLAZA 5.01BL 3.51DC PWA FDP/SKD MAX/ACT MAX 6.02/11.30/14.00 A- LAST ACCLIMATED CITY-LAX REST CLASS- 12.00/14.00/ 8.00 PWA FDP/SKD MAX/ACT MAX 6.02/11.30/14.00 B- LAST ACCLIMATED CITY-LAX REST CLASS- 12.00/14.00/ 8.00 PAY REPORT TIME 2055/16 ACTUAL REPORT TIME 2055/16 16 2803 JFK 2218 SEA.0148 6.30 M3741 SEA 12.06/CROWNE PLAZA SEA 2 ROOMS ORIGINALLY BOOKED FOR PLT 0495/17JUN 6.30BL 4.30DC PWA FDP/SKD MAX/ACT MAX 7.53/11.30/14.00 A- LAST ACCLIMATED CITY-LAX REST CLASS- 12.00/14.00/ 9.00 PWA FDP/SKD MAX/ACT MAX 7.53/11.30/14.00 B- LAST ACCLIMATED CITY-LAX REST CLASS- 12.00/14.00/ 9.00 PAY REPORT TIME 1424/17 ACTUAL REPORT TIME 1424/17 17 198 *SEA 1521 LAX.1811 2.50 0.06 3742 2.50BL 2.13DC Beat this one. Maids knocking in the halls at 9am in PDX, JFK and SEA. Earplugs, eye shades and all that. I felt worse when I got home than any mission i ever flew on the C-5 or any international trip in my short 3 years on the ER in NY and LA. |
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