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Old 07-11-2016 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by IKEALG
If you want to see lots of general aviation planes take them to PDK airport and go have a burger while watching the planes at the Downwind restaurant. There is also a little playground area next to the ramp where the kids can play and still watch planes
Pdk is a good place. It can go from quiet for a few min to fill blown ATC video game in extreme hard level. G6s mix with c172s with BE58S with helicopters, sometimes blimps, yellow sought song biplanes and the guy on his first solo. Occasionally someone slides off the runway. Just. Like. AtL.
Old 07-11-2016 | 01:41 PM
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Hey look IBM and gogo have teamed up to create a turbulence avoiding systems for pilots.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/06/16/tech...ogo-turbulence
Old 07-11-2016 | 02:26 PM
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Seat Lock/Training Freeze question:

If a person incurs a 2-year seat-lock due to bidding a different a/c on this next AE, then a new category opens (i.e. DTW 350A/B) how does bidding the new aircraft/category affect the current seat-lock? Is it an additional 2-years, on top of our current freeze or does the person just incur a "new" 2-year freeze? Thanks in advance.
Old 07-11-2016 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Elliot
Seat Lock/Training Freeze question:

If a person incurs a 2-year seat-lock due to bidding a different a/c on this next AE, then a new category opens (i.e. DTW 350A/B) how does bidding the new aircraft/category affect the current seat-lock? Is it an additional 2-years, on top of our current freeze or does the person just incur a "new" 2-year freeze? Thanks in advance.
Since it is a new category, I don't think you add the two freezes. I think that is only if you are in a freeze and get a Captain bid. It is on page 2-5 of the PWA.

c. during which the pilot will (unless declared eligible by the Company) be ineligible to be awarded another AE with an earliest conversion date falling within the freeze period (other than to a new or reestablished category) for which qualification training is required.

Nothing about incurring more freeze.
Old 07-11-2016 | 06:47 PM
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Hey look IBM and gogo have teamed up to create a turbulence avoiding systems for pilots.

Avoiding air turbulence may soon get easier - Jun. 16, 2016

Sweet. Do the current EFB's utilize gogo? If It's like my last gig you'd have to ask a flight attendant or passenger to describe the radar picture to be legal.
Old 07-12-2016 | 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotFrog
Since it is a new category, I don't think you add the two freezes. I think that is only if you are in a freeze and get a Captain bid. It is on page 2-5 of the PWA.

c. during which the pilot will (unless declared eligible by the Company) be ineligible to be awarded another AE with an earliest conversion date falling within the freeze period (other than to a new or reestablished category) for which qualification training is required.

Nothing about incurring more freeze.
Unfortunately, you do. You will go to qualification training for the new category and 23.G.1 states that "[a] pilot who is awarded an AE or VD for which qualification training is required will incur a 24-month category freeze." The presence of the new category (i.e., A350) allows you to be eligible to bid for that new category (despite being under a freeze) but it does not erase a current freeze/committment.

I seem to recall a pilot who bid NYC B717 Captain and then, on the next AE, hopped over to NYC A330 F/O. That is probably 40-45 months of category freeze right there. On the bright side, he/she won't have to worry about filling out AE preferences for a while...until the A350 or CSeries comes along (or that long-rumored MSP 73N category opens). 😊
Old 07-12-2016 | 04:44 AM
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I called CR a few bids ago because I was thinking of bidding ATLM88A (so glad I didn't), and I was gonna use the new MSP73B as my escape route if I hated it but wanted to make sure I wouldn't have an 3+ year freeze if I did.

They said I'd only have a 2 year, not 2+ the original. FWIW.
Old 07-12-2016 | 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by MoonShot
I called CR a few bids ago because I was thinking of bidding ATLM88A (so glad I didn't), and I was gonna use the new MSP73B as my escape route if I hated it but wanted to make sure I wouldn't have an 3+ year freeze if I did.

They said I'd only have a 2 year, not 2+ the original. FWIW.
Sweet....guess they are changing their tune.
Old 07-12-2016 | 11:14 AM
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New category= no freeze.

First upgrade while still under another freeze= freezes added together.
Old 07-12-2016 | 05:47 PM
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I've been looking at these friggen ads so long I'm about to apply to be an Emirates pilot. How do I get these dang things to go away? They look pretty desperate. Accidentally touch the ad while you're scrolling and it pops up. I need some tech help.
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