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Old 08-09-2015, 06:56 AM
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On that topic....is there an official wait time they need to wait before moving onto the next in line for a GS? I believe it's 10 minutes, but not sure if that is an official number.

I guess GS w/conflict has no wait time....basically you don't answer, scheduling moves on.

Still learning the hard way after all these years.
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Old 08-09-2015, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Klondike Bear View Post
Letting us get on the Internet and pull up a radar map on the surface would go along way to mitigating these issues. When you have two holes to go through and you just have to pick one is a gamble. We need to stack the cards more in our deck. They could give us a password to use today for the wifi.
That would make too much sense, they would be worried that abuse would follow and guys and girls would be watching the "View."
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Old 08-09-2015, 08:16 AM
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That would make too much sense, they would be worried that abuse would follow and guys and girls would be watching the "View."
Its a function of superficial liability more than anything. If they give you something new there's a possibility it might not work out. Therefore its better to do nothing and rely on the same out dated "technology" like long lines of code with no vowels and asinine TP's that cover most of the country most of the time and are borderline meaningless. That way if something happens they can say "oh well you know you should have avoided that general area because it was possible".

And crews chomp at the bit to throw each other under the bus when it could easily happen to anyone. Meanwhile our 30-300M airliners have less resources and SA available to them than single engine piston aircraft, or our passengers in the back.
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Old 08-09-2015, 08:50 AM
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I remember when the back page of USA Today was the weather briefing......
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Old 08-09-2015, 09:25 AM
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Who knew... the usa today still existed?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/todayi...ille/31279093/
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Old 08-09-2015, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy View Post
Its a function of superficial liability more than anything. If they give you something new there's a possibility it might not work out. Therefore its better to do nothing and rely on the same out dated "technology" like long lines of code with no vowels and asinine TP's that cover most of the country most of the time and are borderline meaningless. That way if something happens they can say "oh well you know you should have avoided that general area because it was possible".

And crews chomp at the bit to throw each other under the bus when it could easily happen to anyone. Meanwhile our 30-300M airliners have less resources and SA available to them than single engine piston aircraft, or our passengers in the back.
I have yet to see any value in those tp reports, nor have I seen anyone use them.
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Old 08-09-2015, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by jamesrhatcher View Post
A good conservative rule of thumb that I use is never fly downwind of a cell if at all possible. On occasions where flying upwind of the cell isn't possible, I use 1 nm per knot of wind coming off the cell for minimum distance for avoidance. For example, if winds coming off a cell are showing 85 knots, I'll pass at least 85 nm from the cell, but never less than 25 when above FL250. Also, I read that the flight was running about 90 minutes behind schedule. I wonder how much, if any, the pressure to make up time and get back on schedule played in this event. Here's an excellent tool I use in my flight planning: Storm Prediction Center Convective Outlooks



I hope some of this is helpful.
An 85 mile downwind lateral offset? That seems implausible, unnecessary and likely to create other problems. Maybe I'm misunderstanding.
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Old 08-09-2015, 10:56 AM
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Badflaps,

"It's forecast to be yellow"
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Old 08-09-2015, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid View Post
I guess the company called our bluff and upgraded the 50 seaters... with afterburner!
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid View Post
I have yet to see any value in those tp reports, nor have I seen anyone use them.
They work, they can't help if you do not use them. Probably the tablet is going to give us all that information...oh wait1
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