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Old 08-01-2016 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by RetiredFTS
Can someone tell me what triggers reroute pay? Was extended on last day of trip by 7 hours due to late departure and inadequate rest day prior.
Sorry, don't have the answer but didn't want to bury your question...
Old 08-01-2016 | 04:55 PM
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Good evening fellow Delta pilots. PieO here as a new participant... former military pilot, and happy to be here at Delta. Looking forward to getting questions answered and discussing our issues. I agree to the rules.
Old 08-01-2016 | 05:13 PM
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Good evening fellow Delta pilots. PieO here as a new participant... former military pilot, and happy to be here at Delta. Looking forward to getting questions answered and discussing our issues. I agree to the rules.
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Old 08-01-2016 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by RetiredFTS
Can someone tell me what triggers reroute pay? Was extended on last day of trip by 7 hours due to late departure and inadequate rest day prior.
One reroute (RR) trigger, there are multiple, is if the actual RR caused an extension to your originally scheduled rotation.

Example: Report for a four-day at 0800, released on fourth day at 1800. If the reroute exceeds this original footprint, you are entitled to (RR) pay.

For additional information, or questions specific to your added flying, contact D-ALPA Scheduling, they've always offered a quick response. (1-800-USA-ALPA)
Old 08-01-2016 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Elliot
One reroute (RR) trigger, there are multiple, is if the actual RR caused an extension to your originally scheduled rotation.

Example: Report for a four-day at 0800, released on fourth day at 1800. If the reroute exceeds this original footprint, you are entitled to (RR) pay.

For additional information, or questions specific to your added flying, contact D-ALPA Scheduling, they've always offered a quick response. (1-800-USA-ALPA)
Thanks Elliott.
Old 08-01-2016 | 06:07 PM
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Zika question. I know that if you don't want to go to Zika destinations, bid to avoid them. What happens if you end up getting one of them?

Also more important for my case right now....On a trip to MIA which has just now been classified to have Zika. Wife is pregnant, any chance to change the trip to avoid it? and who to call?
Old 08-01-2016 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by james014
Zika question. I know that if you don't want to go to Zika destinations, bid to avoid them. What happens if you end up getting one of them?

Also more important for my case right now....On a trip to MIA which has just now been classified to have Zika. Wife is pregnant, any chance to change the trip to avoid it? and who to call?
Never done it, but I'm told you can call the CPO and request their assistance. I'd be interested to hear how they handle it. With a pregnant wife, I certainly wouldn't go near Zika myself...probably wouldn't even with a fertile wife who wasn't yet pregnant.
Old 08-01-2016 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by james014
Zika question. I know that if you don't want to go to Zika destinations, bid to avoid them. What happens if you end up getting one of them?

Also more important for my case right now....On a trip to MIA which has just now been classified to have Zika. Wife is pregnant, any chance to change the trip to avoid it? and who to call?
I asked this question to an ATL CP because my wife is also pregnant and he basically said they would work with you to drop the trips if you are not able to bid around them or swap them out. At no point are they required to pay you for any dropped work. This applies to both men and women pilots. Fortunately, I have been able to bid around Central America, the Caribbean, et al, even while being moderately junior on the 73N. I haven't been out of the country in several months but now I have to keep my eye on FL, too.
Old 08-01-2016 | 06:35 PM
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1. There is nothing stopping anyone from deviating to an earlier DH with a scheduled layover longer than 9 hours. However, there are numerous issues and situations limiting the ability to deviate to a later DH.
You can deviate later if you want if your'e on your last day. You just tell them you aren't taking the DH.

2. The only legal DH deviation is to something earlier, not later. For a reserve for instance, you're clock resets at the completion of scheduled DH, not the later DH if that's what is chosen. Also, crew hotel bookings for follow on crews are predicated on the scheduled layover, not the later DH deviation - i.e. you may be occupying someone else's room if you stay longer than scheduled.
You can deviate later if you are on your last day.

3. The company has to give you 10 hours break from duty completion after the layover whether it was 9 hours or 24 hours. Difference is, now they have you on the hook earlier (if reserve) with the 9 hour layover.
If the company gives you less than 10 hours of rest before a DH, you are not good for any flight duty until you get at least 10 hours of rest after completion of the DH. And per-117, that 10 hours has to allow you to get 8 hours sleep opportunity. So if you can't fall asleep midday, you are not satisfying the 8 hour part.

4. Not all 9 hour layovers are front or back end of rotation. Some are in the middle.
Who cares. If they don't give you 10 hours of rest, you are a pumpkin, period. The company is only hurting their operation if they don't give you 10 hours of rest, because you haven't been reset yet and won't be good for anything until you get at least 10 hours of rest.

5. I thought I made it pretty clear in my earlier post, I do not support going back to a dangerously flawed FAR 121. I do support raising the bar to what other carriers have as minimum layovers.

Finally, do you or have you ever had a position in DALPA?
No, and I have no intent at this time. For me 117 is pretty simple and straight forward. I consider hands above the old rules. Could it need improvements, sure, but I don't get why anyone thinks there is anything dangerous about getting any rest before a DH. You are a pumpkin and can't do any flight duty until you get at least 10 hours of rest later.
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Old 08-02-2016 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by james014
Zika question. I know that if you don't want to go to Zika destinations, bid to avoid them. What happens if you end up getting one of them?

Also more important for my case right now....On a trip to MIA which has just now been classified to have Zika. Wife is pregnant, any chance to change the trip to avoid it? and who to call?
Good luck. If you are in a category that goes to those destinations, I am pretty sure that unless you are pregnant yourself you have to go. I tried like hell to get out of an Africa trip once, and they wouldn't let me out of it. it will be interesting to see what you come up with. Keep us posted, OK?
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