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Old 06-21-2017, 04:53 PM
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Anybody notice the blurb on iCrew saying QCQ is currently unavailable?
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Old 06-21-2017, 05:18 PM
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Anybody notice the blurb on iCrew saying QCQ is currently unavailable?


I mean this as lightheartedly as possible, but where have you been the last few months? They cancelled the 2Q QCQ due to technical issues back in April or May.

FWIW, I'm helping beta test this week the new version so I'd wager it'll be released to group a few from now if all goes well.


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Old 06-21-2017, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane View Post
Unless you are a new hire, being on reserve is a choice. If a pilot finds commuting to SC onerous then s/he should bid a regular line on whatever equipment s/he can hold. End of story. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.

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The above statement is not always true!

I bid into my current category at 75% relative seniority in 2015, which was a substantial buffer above the reserve line, even in the slow months. I even chose to convert after junior pilots, so I would not be on reserve while the junior pilots were in training. The next two AEs pushed me down to 86% relative seniority, even though the category was growing in size. I did not have a CHOICE in being on reserve, due to the 2 year training freeze.

Commuting to reserve was not a choice the first month it happened. After the month, however; it was a choice for the next four months. I also figured out the nuances of reserve in a vacation month. The downsides were a night on VA Ave so I could get bounces in the sim, and all the lonely days when CS would never call me.
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Old 06-22-2017, 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta View Post
I mean this as lightheartedly as possible, but where have you been the last few months? They cancelled the 2Q QCQ due to technical issues back in April or May.

FWIW, I'm helping beta test this week the new version so I'd wager it'll be released to group a few from now if all goes well.


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It's new. I assumed it was for the next quarter.
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Old 06-22-2017, 06:25 AM
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Wow!

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Old 06-22-2017, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by One Taco View Post
Probably just looking for a feed to the 2022 World Cup seeing as ME"2" won't be helping out.....🤣
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Old 06-22-2017, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Tee1Up View Post
The only way I see "checking in at the start of a SC" is by physically checking in at the airport.
That would be a different thing altogether. They can have that too, if they pay for it. I'd give them that, for even fewer SC's a month, plus a hard pay and credit (5:15 works) for a reduced 6 hour sit. Anything less and I'm not interested.

What I was thinking about is likely a form of something DALPA is already predisposed to give them for free in the future anyway. Location information based of a cellular tablet or whatever, etc. So at start of SC, you log in and it verifies you're a reasonable distance away. What determines that? The same thing that already does. At the very least, 125 miles from the airport reference point is the worst they could ever hold us to.

To even allow that though, I'd want a reduction in the monthly max of SC's. The current 7/6 can go to 6/5. If they want positive airport checkin, in addition to the hard pay and credit, 4/3 would be appropriate IMO for max SC's a month, in addition to the added pay and credit for each one sat. If they won't accept that, then they don't get the other side of that equation. Oh well.

I also don't see the number of SC's being reduced.
Then they don't get anything and we remain as is.

Isn't that a formula that is already in the contract?
Yes, and if they want something from us (location verification at start of SC) then they can pay for it by reducing monthly SC's. If not, then they don't need it that bad.

I am just adamantly against any sort of "tracking mechanism" for SC and certainly against having to physically go to the airport to "check in" for SC.
Tracking is coming regardless, unless the line swine rise up and pre-empt it. Same as further scope relief. I generally lean towards #resist things like that, but if we are going to entertain them, then we dang well better get something superior in gains for it, preferably that offsets the same area of inconvenience for a net gain to that area (just like the SC example).

Despite my rigorous defense of the victims of the big data dump guilty because of lack of retroactive proof nonsense, I know some are absolutely guilty of that kind of stuff and it ticks me off too. I want them caught and punished (just not in that manner because that manner is unacceptable). So I'm receptive to potentially workable solutions that put a stop to the abuse while giving us something in return for the added inconvenience and "addressing of their concern". Win-win if we do it right. If the company isn't interested in a fair and workable solution, then it must not be the big of an issue for them.
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Old 06-22-2017, 10:03 AM
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That would be a different thing altogether. They can have that too, if they pay for it. I'd give them that, for even fewer SC's a month, plus a hard pay and credit (5:15 works) for a reduced 6 hour sit.
How about something like the ol' Delta Shuttle "Dozing for Dollars" program? You basically sat airport standby for 10 or 12 hour shifts and were credited with 1 hour for every 2 hours of standby. Worst case you get 5 hours of credit for a 10 hour standby with no flying. Not sure how much that would cost the company as it eats into your guarantee but they would be able to have readily available SC people and they would know you are in position to be promptly available b/c you would sign-in at the airport to start your pay clock. Not necessarily a great deal for those who live local but it would let you eat away at the reserve guarantee, unlike the current SC structure.
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Old 06-22-2017, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by FL370esq View Post
How about something like the ol' Delta Shuttle "Dozing for Dollars" program? You basically sat airport standby for 10 or 12 hour shifts and were credited with 1 hour for every 2 hours of standby. Worst case you get 5 hours of credit for a 10 hour standby with no flying. Not sure how much that would cost the company as it eats into your guarantee but they would be able to have readily available SC people and they would know you are in position to be promptly available b/c you would sign-in at the airport to start your pay clock. Not necessarily a great deal for those who live local but it would let you eat away at the reserve guarantee, unlike the current SC structure.
Not only no but hell no! No airport standby!
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Old 06-22-2017, 10:17 AM
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Not only no but hell no! No airport standby!
I agree but Gloopy seems to be heading down that path. Food is better (and cheaper) in the home/crash pad/hotel and TV channels other than CNN/FoxNews/ESPN are much more accessible. 😁
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