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Old 06-22-2017 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
Well maybe, but in 18 years of on and off reserve last month was the first time that I ever maxed out SC. I am of the opinion that it is directly related to guys not being in position when they were needed.

Just like sick call and MIL LV, we had very Pilot friendly programs in place until guys started pushing it - now we have much less Pilot friendly programs in place in these areas. It will be interesting to see what if any proposed changes we see in SC.

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I don't buy your SC cause and effect opinion because of the following reasons:

1. You're implying that SC abuse never happened before recent times. That's complete BS in my opinion - it's always happened. Look at the seniority of the alleged violators. For whatever reason, the company is now choosing to deal with it forcefully.

2. In your 18 years on/off reserve, how many of those early years did we have PBS? From what I understand, the pilot/scheduler relationship was more "friendly" pre-PBS.

3. You're suddenly finding yourself junior in a category and I believe that has some bearing on how scheduling handles you. I've seen my share of junior reserve in the recent past and can tell you that I've filled up on SC or come very close to it many times.

Goes back to what I've said about perspective being colored by seniority in this group. Seniority block representation within DALPA would be a very good thing for this reason.

BTW, I completely agree with hockeypilot44 regarding increased SC and I'll add that the ALV+15 reserve assignment change was another middle finger to the junior end of the seniority list.
Old 06-22-2017 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by trustbutverify
3. You're suddenly finding yourself junior in a category and I believe that has some bearing on how scheduling handles you. I've seen my share of junior reserve in the recent past and can tell you that I've filled up on SC or come very close to it many times.
Not only that, but the higher the max SC per month, the more the average reserve will get all things being equal. So even if you don't "max out" you'll still get more on average the higher any given max is.
Old 06-22-2017 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Not only no but hell no! No airport standby!
Whoever wants airport standby should be sent to the regionals. Plenty of airport standby there...
Old 06-22-2017 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Not only no but hell no! No airport standby!
Not even voluntary only for a full 5:15 day above guarantee? I wouldn't do it but some might. Commuters paid to sit around at the airport hmmm...
Old 06-22-2017 | 02:11 PM
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So I typed in my password to get rid of the icrew annoyance message on login. Now I can't find the weatherview+ training I'm supposed to watch, can I get an assist on the path to click to find it?
Old 06-22-2017 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Han Solo
So I typed in my password to get rid of the icrew annoyance message on login. Now I can't find the weatherview+ training I'm supposed to watch, can I get an assist on the path to click to find it?
Flight Ops page. EFB link on the right. Should find it from there.
Old 06-22-2017 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Not even voluntary only for a full 5:15 day above guarantee? I wouldn't do it but some might. Commuters paid to sit around at the airport hmmm...
Not in a million years because voluntary is letting the "camel's nose under the tent."

Proper staffing, short calls, green slips. The current options are adequate.
Old 06-22-2017 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Not even voluntary only for a full 5:15 day above guarantee? I wouldn't do it but some might. Commuters paid to sit around at the airport hmmm...
The company would not accept a voluntary system. For it to have value to them they would need it to be consistant and dependable.
Old 06-22-2017 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Not even voluntary only for a full 5:15 day above guarantee? I wouldn't do it but some might. Commuters paid to sit around at the airport hmmm...
Never gonna happen. The unique shuttle operation required crews to be in position in case they needed to add an extra section ASAP. They are already paying Pilots to be in position - its called short call.

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Old 06-22-2017 | 05:56 PM
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3 quotes in a row, it must be a bad idea. I agree, you're all correct. My bad. Just thought there might be some "money for nothing" (or QOL salesman) sentiment here.
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