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forgot to bid 12-05-2009 07:45 AM

In December, excluding DC9 and 755, 30.42% of the airline is on reserve.

And thats your fun fact-ish of the day.

Superpilot92 12-05-2009 08:02 AM

Today's a great day for football!!! That is all!

HOOK'EM!!!

sailingfun 12-05-2009 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by rahc (Post 721495)
Unrelated question......
How can you find out if a flight is payload optimized? My sister is attempting to get home tonight from SA. If anyone has a number, please PM me.

I flight would not be designated payload optimized until they start the load planning process a few hours before the flight. Just because a flight is load optimized does not mean she wont get on. It just means they want the agent to hold off boarding the non revs until they get the final cargo weights. In most cases when payload optimized we still get all the non revs on the aircraft. If you posted where in SA she is coming from we could give you a better idea. Some have lots of cargo like Lima. I have never had a issue out of Sao Paulo or Rio.

sailingfun 12-05-2009 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 721446)
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How about you are a JFK777A doing the same commute - now you (MD) displace to SEA 330A. How many training events did you just create?

I agree about the practice bid. I think if DAL ran a practice bid, they would decide it is in their best interest to do the gigundo mofiggley bid with all the proposed chess pieces moving.

They run several practice bids after posting every time. I suspect in this case they will run at least half a dozen. They just don't post the results. Years ago you could call them or walk over and see a practice bid. They stopped that because they found that in the last day before a bid closed over 30 percent of the pilots changed what they wanted. People who thought they were getting a bid and then did not get it would complain even though they were told it was not the final bid. It created to many headaches for them. You can however be sure they will run many bids before they make a final posting.
They want to move as many pilots as possible because now is the perfect time. They have a surplus of pilots so can keep a bunch in school and fly the schedule. The cost to do this is minimal. The majority of training costs are fixed. The portion of training costs that can flux is much cheaper when you have a surplus of pilots. If you are doing a lot of training and short then those costs go way up as the number of Greenslips explodes. It was not unusual in a heavy training time to have 5000 plus green slips a month when we had 7000 pilots.
They anticipate next winter that they will be hiring pilots. That creates lots of training events. If they are going to move people now is by far the most logical time to do it. The good news is that this bid is going to be a gain in positions. We have not seen that in a long time!!

acl65pilot 12-05-2009 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 721338)
So not to be devious or anything, but say you're DAL-S living in SEA or PDX commuting to SLC 88 A and you want to be SEA based. So in order to become SEA based do you not bid on this AE but put a MD in for the 330 above all other choices?

The reason I ask, I just wonder if the company will notice a lot of red flags as to training costs if someone had the seniority to pull said MD bid and would get A330 but the A330 is supposedly going east and ERs coming west so thats going to be double training costs in short order.

Just wondering how they'd handle that, I would guess you get two types in short order.

They can and that is part of the fun of surplus bids.

forgot to bid 12-05-2009 08:49 AM

Interesting sailing. You kind of figure they're watching it, but I've got two quesitons, a) can they renege on their offering or what they posted if they don't like what they're seeing or do they have to cancel the bid and start over (i.e. drop NYC 765 as an example) and b) what exactly is "a gain in positions" though?

And Super, Alabama or Florida, which one do you want?

newKnow 12-05-2009 08:56 AM

I thought easybid was supposed to be free. Why is it prompting me for my credit card and charge me per minute?? :confused:

acl65pilot 12-05-2009 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by DAL330drvr (Post 721490)
So, in the end, would the real bid ever look anything close to what the practice bids forecasted?

Nope, it would just show guys where they screwed up. Plus, they would change what is getting bid on anyway. They will tweak this thing up to publishing it, and then maybe even after the fact.

acl65pilot 12-05-2009 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by rahc (Post 721495)
Unrelated question......
How can you find out if a flight is payload optimized? My sister is attempting to get home tonight from SA. If anyone has a number, please PM me.

You would have to call Load Control a few hrs out. If you are not a DAL employee they will not tell you, nor can you even get through.

acl65pilot 12-05-2009 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 721508)
In December, excluding DC9 and 755, 30.42% of the airline is on reserve.

And thats your fun fact-ish of the day.

Great fact, it is the way we used to run the airline in the summer.


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