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Check Essential 12-11-2009 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 725087)
Looks like the big winners are MSP and NYC.

Big loser (as rumored) ATL:
..

We should have a naming contest for this bid. I submit:

The Hartsfield Massacre

forgot to bid 12-11-2009 06:56 AM

It would be good to go on DALPA and review the Transition Working Group Notepad, 09-18, Filling of Vacancies. But:

1. Vacation? AE - must rebid, MD -keep, VD - must rebid
2. Eligible for Paid Move? AE - No, MD - Yes, VD - Yes
3. Will Award incur a Freeze? AE - Yes, MD - No, VD - Yes
4. Eligible for Award if under a Freeze? AE - No, MD - Yes, VD - Yes
5. Seniority for Position Award? AE - use your seniority, MD - use your seniority, VD - use your seniority for open vacation and same position but use junior pilots seniority for other position.
6. Eligible for Pay Protection? AE - No, MD - Yes, per certain criteria, VD - No.

finis72 12-11-2009 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 725091)
It would be good to go on DALPA and review the Transition Working Group Notepad, 09-18, Filling of Vacancies. But:

1. Vacation? AE - must rebid, MD -keep, VD - must rebid
2. Eligible for Paid Move? AE - No, MD - Yes, VD - Yes
3. Will Award incur a Freeze? AE - Yes, MD - No, VD - Yes
4. Eligible for Award if under a Freeze? AE - No, MD - Yes, VD - Yes
5. Seniority for Position Award? AE - use your seniority, MD - use your seniority, VD - use your seniority for open vacation and same position but use junior pilots seniority for other position.
6. Eligible for Pay Protection? AE - No, MD - Yes, per certain criteria, VD - No.

Thats good info ! Thanks Forgetful

newKnow 12-11-2009 07:02 AM

I Know they will post this in crew scheduline later, but.....


Category Nbr Vacancies
ATL7ERCAPT 35
ATL73NCAPT 15
ATLM88CAPT 24
ATL7ERF/O 35
ATL73NF/O 16
ATLM88F/O 34

CVG73NCAPT 5
CVGM88CAPT 7
CVG73NF/O 6
CVGM88F/O 5

DTW777CAPT 58
DTW777F/O 58
DTW320F/O 3

LAX73NCAPT 6
LAX73NF/O 4

MEM320F/O 2

MSPM88CAPT 110
MSP320F/O 4
MSPM88F/O 118

NYC765CAPT 80
NYC73NCAPT 10
NYCM88CAPT 7
NYC765F/O 140
NYC73NF/O 10
NYCM88F/O 9

SLC320CAPT 105
SLC320F/O 111



Category Nbr OfSurpluses
ATL765CAPT 80
ATL767CAPT 136
ATL765F/O 140
ATL767F/O 81

DTW320CAPT 3
DTWDC9CAPT 30
DTW744F/O 63
DTWDC9F/O 30

MSP320CAPT 15
MSPDC9CAPT 42
MSPDC9F/O 34

NYC777CAPT 40
NYC777F/O 41

SLCM88CAPT 92
SLCM88F/O 92

iaflyer 12-11-2009 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 725087)
Big loser (as rumored) ATL:

It's too early for me to do all the math, but it's a lot of subtracting....

From my figuring, ATL loses 323 slots.

220 surpluses are the 765 flying moving to NYC and 217 are the 767 surpluses.

ATL gains in the M88, 73N categories, with a little 7ERB growth.

forgot to bid 12-11-2009 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 725090)
We should have a naming contest for this bid. I submit:

The Hartsfield Massacre

Check, you forgot its Hartsfield-Jackson, not Hartsfield. :rolleyes: :D

1. Gone with the AE
2. Invasion of the NYC/MSP Body Snatchers
3. SAW IX: AE 29DEC09
4. Bad Company :D
5. There Will Be ATL Blood

iaflyer 12-11-2009 07:05 AM

The AE is out on DeltaNet too in PDF form.

Conversion window is Jan 1, 2010 until Dec 1, 2010.

Check Essential 12-11-2009 07:07 AM

Kinda odd that they are displacing 63 FOs off the 747 but no captains.

???

iaflyer 12-11-2009 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 725101)
Kinda odd that they are displacing 63 FOs off the 747 but no captains.

I think it's left over from the switch to Delta work rules - NWA had 3 FOs and 1 Captain on a double-crew. Delta has two Captains, 2 FOs.

So, after they trained more B744 Captains, they are able to displace the FOs.

DAL4EVER 12-11-2009 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 725097)
Check, you forgot its Hartsfield-Jackson, not Hartsfield. :rolleyes: :D

1. Gone with the AE
2. Invasion of the NYC/MSP Body Snatchers
3. SAW IX: AE 29DEC09
4. Bad Company :D
5. There Will Be ATL Blood

I like #1. Gone with the AE. In the immortal words of Rhett "Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn!".

Actually I do. I am curious how many guys chase the money from ATL. If they elect to stay, ATL will go waaaay senior now. Talking early 2001 hires as the 88 plug at best.

The next thing I'm curious about is how many CVG guys fly north to DTW to get on the 777.


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