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Old 03-20-2018, 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Fr8Thrust View Post
I’m sorry to all the active subsidiary/contract employees, who put in just as much effort for the same company, for having to accept subpar benefits for all the years prior.
I'm not sorry. As a contract worker, you don't get equal benefits to the mainline partner. You're lucky you get any at all. Some contract ramp workers don't.

I think it is a fair gesture to raise Endeavor above retirees. I don't, however agree with them going ahead of active parents.
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Old 03-20-2018, 05:32 AM
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Endeavor employees just got an email announcing a new pass priority called S3A which will give priority over non-dependent children and retirees. It will begin on April 30. I'm sorry to all the retirees and soon to be retired that put in so much effort for the company and now have to deal with this. At least there aren't too many employees so it hopefully won't have that much of a negative impact.
The animosity between mainline and Endeavor gets clearer and clearer by the day. We're only different enough on paper to barely be considered a different company.
I understand that retirees put in a lot of work for the company during their tenure but it's incredibly frustrating to be trying to go to work only to have the jumpseat occupied and the cabin filled with everyone but you because you weren't high enough on the standby list.

I was once in a position to help a retiree get on a flight by taking the jumpseat but after hearing him complain to his friend about the flight benefits of subsidiaries, do you think I did that? No. Am I a better person for it? No. Is this the type of environment that the sentiment that we at Endeavor don't deserve as much as mainline employees even though we fly 800+ Delta Connection flights a day to feed mainline? Yes.
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Old 03-20-2018, 05:36 AM
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Shadow period question. I managed to get a five day trip starting on last day of shadow period, which was then dropped. Which was nice. If I pick up something in that shadow does it pay over what I'm guaranteed for the dropped trip or am I flying for free?
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Old 03-20-2018, 05:40 AM
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I just saw a new status in trip coverage that is not listed in the help section: PSB

Obviously some sort of pot swap but not sure where the B is coming from.
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Shadow period question. I managed to get a five day trip starting on last day of shadow period, which was then dropped. Which was nice. If I pick up something in that shadow does it pay over what I'm guaranteed for the dropped trip or am I flying for free?
Do you mean in the shadow, or in the footprint of the dropped trip (which overlap by one day)? You may not actually be able to pick anything up without OK on your schedule anyway...
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Old 03-20-2018, 05:51 AM
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The animosity between mainline and Endeavor gets clearer and clearer by the day. We're only different enough on paper to barely be considered a different company.
I understand that retirees put in a lot of work for the company during their tenure but it's incredibly frustrating to be trying to go to work only to have the jumpseat occupied and the cabin filled with everyone but you because you weren't high enough on the standby list.

I was once in a position to help a retiree get on a flight by taking the jumpseat but after hearing him complain to his friend about the flight benefits of subsidiaries, do you think I did that? No. Am I a better person for it? No. Is this the type of environment that the sentiment that we at Endeavor don't deserve as much as mainline employees even though we fly 800+ Delta Connection flights a day to feed mainline? Yes.
I don't know about you personally, but I have a hunch that most pilots working at Endeavor and who read this forum probably want to be hired at Delta some day. Oddly enough, those people who think this is a good idea are trading a few years of convenience (where you'd be PS'd to work anyway if you followed the letter of the law) for an entire retirement's worth of nonrev travel priority. Talk about walking over a dollar to pick up a dime.
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Old 03-20-2018, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Han Solo View Post
I don't know about you personally, but I have a hunch that most pilots working at Endeavor and who read this forum probably want to be hired at Delta some day. Oddly enough, those people who think this is a good idea are trading a few years of convenience (where you'd be PS'd to work anyway if you followed the letter of the law) for an entire retirement's worth of nonrev travel priority. Talk about walking over a dollar to pick up a dime.
If I'm not mistaken, pilots have no role in any of these changes. There are Delta policies I agree with and many that I don't. Let's not confuse which ones I do and do not influence.
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Old 03-20-2018, 06:34 AM
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I just saw a new status in trip coverage that is not listed in the help section: PSB

Obviously some sort of pot swap but not sure where the B is coming from.
Pilot swap board, its a pilot to pilot swap using swap with friends feature or the icrew swap board I believe.
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Old 03-20-2018, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Han Solo View Post
I just saw a new status in trip coverage that is not listed in the help section: PSB

Obviously some sort of pot swap but not sure where the B is coming from.
Pilot swap board. I had PSB by a swap that I did with the "swap with friends."
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Originally Posted by TED74 View Post
Do you mean in the shadow, or in the footprint of the dropped trip (which overlap by one day)? You may not actually be able to pick anything up without OK on your schedule anyway...
Good point, I meant in the footprint of the dropped trip. Not in the actual shadow period
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