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johnso29 12-06-2009 05:46 PM

Is there any incentive to do a VD, or is it just a 'Nice Guy' thing to do?

JobHopper 12-06-2009 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 721961)
FYI guys-

This bid does not plan on ALL DC-9's getting parked- just the -30 and 40's.

That is one-half the fleet (34 out of 68). All other things being equal, that alone will generate 340 displacements (currently 677 DC-9 pilots).

johnso29 12-06-2009 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by JobHopper (Post 722117)
That is one-half the fleet (34 out of 68). All other things being equal, that alone will generate 340 displacements (currently 677 DC-9 pilots).

Wouldn't that be under the assumption that ZERO guys bid off the DC9? I mean, either way there will be a surplus so I guess my question is moot.

iceman49 12-06-2009 05:55 PM

j29, sent you a pm

Pineapple Guy 12-06-2009 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 722115)
Is there any incentive to do a VD, or is it just a 'Nice Guy' thing to do?

Absolutely. If you are in a shrinking category, and don't want to end up on reserve, this may be the only way to get out of that category.

JobHopper 12-06-2009 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 722120)
Wouldn't that be under the assumption that ZERO guys bid off the DC9? I mean, either way there will be a surplus so I guess my question is moot.

I don't know how this AE stuff works. 340 guys or so will be displaced from the -9 because the slots are going away. Now, do they got to their AE preference or their MD preference? Do you need to list upgrades (like 744 A) on your MD list in order to have a shot at it? DAL-S guys?

Scoop 12-06-2009 06:06 PM

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One more question. When I enter a percentage,i.e. 30%, is that 30% from the top or bottom.


I know I have the same question. I want to be in the top half. Do I input 50% or ....... Oh wait, I think I just figured it out. :)

Scoop

satchip 12-06-2009 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by Rhino Driver (Post 722108)
Gents,
Be very careful in trying to game the system and looking at what others have as an AE preference. You can look all you want, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE is you have NO IDEA what people are bidding as their MD choice. This bid is the MOAB! People WILL BE displaced and their is absolutely no telling where guys will fall. BOTTOM LINE!!! BID WHAT YOU WANT! WANT WHAT YOU BID!!!:eek:

What if you can't hold what you want and you don't want what you can hold?:D:rolleyes:

iaflyer 12-06-2009 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by JobHopper (Post 722128)
I don't know how this AE stuff works. 340 guys or so will be displaced from the -9 because the slots are going away. Now, do they got to their AE preference or their MD preference? Do you need to list upgrades (like 744 A) on your MD list in order to have a shot at it? DAL-S guys?

If you are certain you're going to be MDed (ie, they are displacing 200 Captains, and you are 50 from the bottom...you might be getting displaced...) then do not put anything in your AE. Only use the MD - if you're MDed you get moving expenses. Someone else can chime in on whether AEs or MDs are run first, I can't remember.

If you want to displace to DTW744A, you need to have it on your MD list. There is a provision that if you have no MDs listed and you get displaced, you are assumed to want the highest paying equipment in your base.

satchip 12-06-2009 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 722133)
If you are certain you're going to be MDed (ie, they are displacing 200 Captains, and you are 50 from the bottom...you might be getting displaced...) then do not put anything in your AE. Only use the MD - if you're MDed you get moving expenses. Someone else can chime in on whether AEs or MDs are run first, I can't remember.

If you want to displace to DTW744A, you need to have it on your MD list. There is a provision that if you have no MDs listed and you get displaced, you are assumed to want the highest paying equipment in your base.

I thought I read that if you don't have preferences and you are displaced then you are fodder for whatever they want to give you.


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