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I dropped a trip using personal drop in PCS. Does anyone know if I can still white slip or greenslip over that time? My schedule says PD now where the trip was.
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Yes you can pick up (or GS) over a PD. You can't pick up over an APD day. Many people will will just use one day of an APD to drop an entire trip, so they can pick up on the other days.
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For those of you who do not believe in the X day schedule check, I guess technically a pilot could wait till 0001 of the on call day to check the schedule, thus not checking the schedule on the X day.
...but the PWA clearly puts the responsibility on the pilot for checking and acknowledging an assignment for the first on call day. How else do you you interpret section 23.S.3.d.2.b) and the associated note?
23.S.3.
d. will be notified of his assignment to open time under Section 23 N. or O. by one of the following two methods:
1) telephone contact from Crew Scheduling.
2) electronic placement of a rotation or conversion to short call that is placed on his schedule prior to:
a) his release from a rotation, or
b) nine hours before the end of his last non-fly day (other than a vacation day) before an on-call day.
Note: A pilot is responsible for ascertaining whether he has been assigned a rotation or converted to short call under Section 23 S. 3. d. 2) b). Crew Scheduling is not required to make telephone contact for such an assignment or conversion.
or 2
3.S.2.a.5) Note Two: Note two: A pilot is responsible for ascertaining whether he has been so assigned a rotation. Crew Scheduling is not required to make telephone contact for such an assignment.
...but the PWA clearly puts the responsibility on the pilot for checking and acknowledging an assignment for the first on call day. How else do you you interpret section 23.S.3.d.2.b) and the associated note?
23.S.3.
d. will be notified of his assignment to open time under Section 23 N. or O. by one of the following two methods:
1) telephone contact from Crew Scheduling.
2) electronic placement of a rotation or conversion to short call that is placed on his schedule prior to:
a) his release from a rotation, or
b) nine hours before the end of his last non-fly day (other than a vacation day) before an on-call day.
Note: A pilot is responsible for ascertaining whether he has been assigned a rotation or converted to short call under Section 23 S. 3. d. 2) b). Crew Scheduling is not required to make telephone contact for such an assignment or conversion.
or 2
3.S.2.a.5) Note Two: Note two: A pilot is responsible for ascertaining whether he has been so assigned a rotation. Crew Scheduling is not required to make telephone contact for such an assignment.
For those of you who do not believe in the X day schedule check, I guess technically a pilot could wait till 0001 of the on call day to check the schedule, thus not checking the schedule on the X day.
...but the PWA clearly puts the responsibility on the pilot for checking and acknowledging an assignment for the first on call day. How else do you you interpret section 23.S.3.d.2.b) and the associated note?
23.S.3.
d. will be notified of his assignment to open time under Section 23 N. or O. by one of the following two methods:
1) telephone contact from Crew Scheduling.
2) electronic placement of a rotation or conversion to short call that is placed on his schedule prior to:
a) his release from a rotation, or
b) nine hours before the end of his last non-fly day (other than a vacation day) before an on-call day.
Note: A pilot is responsible for ascertaining whether he has been assigned a rotation or converted to short call under Section 23 S. 3. d. 2) b). Crew Scheduling is not required to make telephone contact for such an assignment or conversion.
or 2
3.S.2.a.5) Note Two: Note two: A pilot is responsible for ascertaining whether he has been so assigned a rotation. Crew Scheduling is not required to make telephone contact for such an assignment.
...but the PWA clearly puts the responsibility on the pilot for checking and acknowledging an assignment for the first on call day. How else do you you interpret section 23.S.3.d.2.b) and the associated note?
23.S.3.
d. will be notified of his assignment to open time under Section 23 N. or O. by one of the following two methods:
1) telephone contact from Crew Scheduling.
2) electronic placement of a rotation or conversion to short call that is placed on his schedule prior to:
a) his release from a rotation, or
b) nine hours before the end of his last non-fly day (other than a vacation day) before an on-call day.
Note: A pilot is responsible for ascertaining whether he has been assigned a rotation or converted to short call under Section 23 S. 3. d. 2) b). Crew Scheduling is not required to make telephone contact for such an assignment or conversion.
or 2
3.S.2.a.5) Note Two: Note two: A pilot is responsible for ascertaining whether he has been so assigned a rotation. Crew Scheduling is not required to make telephone contact for such an assignment.
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Can someone remind me what triggers the occasional "reserve only" restriction on trips assigned to reserve pilots?
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The computer limitation that drives me insane is being unable to move XX days in the middle of a group when it doesn't break any days-off rules. Say I have 5 XX days and want to move the middle 3 into another legal block. Can't do it in just 1 PCS run because you get a false illegal days message. You can only move groups of days touching the ends of your XX days, once that exposes the original middle days you can move those originally intended middle days, then you can reset the original days on the end caps. What should take 1 PCS run takes 3, and there's the chance that those blue days will turn black while you're farting around getting around the technology. This flaw bit me hard in December when my blue days turned to black in the midst of this IT buffoonery.
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It's not an IT thing, it's a contractual thing. I agree that it's a pain, and have included this in my surveys.
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