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Old 04-18-2019 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Big E 757
Maybe we can buy some of their A330’s and 777’s on the cheap.
We're not a "777 airline," silly. Can't make money with them, or so we've always been told.
Old 04-18-2019 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by duder
Flight will still happen however the idiots in Georgia who approved the aviation gas tax may force Delta to operate the flight out of JFK instead of ATL as initially planned.
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Idiots?

Condisend much?
Old 04-18-2019 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by BobZ
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Idiots?

Condisend much?
Condescend*
Old 04-18-2019 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
Just bring us a TA that doesn’t have all these concessions . Cut in PS, bad scope language, new sick language, LCA giveback, change in GS. All for a small pay raise. Give us the pay and not change big items, where you will actually make less.
We are 2 weeks behind vacation compared to AA. We can tweak are reserve rules to make reserve better.
I think when most guys/gals say QOL.
They are referring to a non concession Contract. Times are too good to be giving.... away.
Agreed. With $5B+ in profits coming in, there’s absolutely no reason why we should agree to any concessions.
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Originally Posted by OOfff
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Dang autospell. Im just a joh-jah idgit. Haha

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Old 04-18-2019 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BobZ
Dang autospell. Im just a joh-jah idgit. Haha
You realize the person you were quoting was referring to the legislature, not the populace right?
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Hmmm.....you realize we hav had delta pilots in the GA legislature?
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Originally Posted by BobZ
Hmmm.....you realize we hav had delta pilots in the GA legislature?
Hopefully they didn't vote to raise the fuel tax.... by all accounts though ATL supposedly one of the cheaper hubs to operate in the country.
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Originally Posted by BobZ
Hmmm.....you realize we hav had delta pilots in the GA legislature?
No, but my guess is not too many of those voted against the tax break if any are currently serving. Of course I am biased on this subject, but I thought it was ridiculous to deny the tax break based off DAL's elimination of the NRA discount, and I'm a solid supporter of 2A. If they just didn't want to offer a tax break that's one thing, but punishing a company that provides 10s of thousands of jobs in the state (#5 employer by volume https://www.newsmax.com/fastfeatures.../18/id/645208/), over a discount that roughly 10 people took advantage of is stupid at best.
Old 04-18-2019 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
Not sure I understand all this "talk" about fix QOL, "I'm happy with the pay rates".

I think one point that we have been missing is inflation, which has been historically low. Let's assume that inflation is 3%(pick your own number). so if one is making 200k a year then you would have to make 206K next year to "keep up with inflation" ?..........that is a fool's bet. By the time I pay the taxes on that $6000 increase to "keep up with inflation"....I'm still losing out

Consequently, pay rates must go up by at least 1.35 time the inflation rate(even more if you live in a state with state tax)(CA it's broaching 12%)(and union dues).....for these individuals need to go up about 1.5 times the inflation rate just to maintain status quo with inflation.
I just have to say something here because the bad math bothers me.

Let's use a 30% tax rate just for ease of numbers.

If you make $200,000 a year you are paying $60,000 in taxes, giving you a take home of $140,000. If you have a pay increase to account for inflation taking you to $206,000 (a 3% increase), you are now paying 61,800 in taxes giving you a $144,200 take home, which is 3% more than the previous take home. The only time adjusting your pay at the inflation rate results in "losing out" is if you change tax brackets.

The idea of larger increases doesn't bother me, but your reasoning is not correct.

I'll also add that only pay rates don't automatically fix QOL issues. If someone just cares about time at home, pay rates do nothing if they can't drop trips or bid for more days off. If they want better deadhead rules, they lose out if they have to pay for them each time since (as already mentioned) it's after tax.
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