And dont forget to put your hat on!!! Backpack too! You are the greatest thanks for all you do.

I saw the one in AMS last week. Nothing outstanding, except two things.

First, the company doesn't like two small fleet of large widebodies (777 and A350) so the company may address that in the near future with an wide body RFP. Second, aircraft deliveries are going to be 4% growth for domestic for the next 4 years (net, so that includes retirements) and 3% for the international.

They said the same thing about new hires - moving up some hiring from next year to this year, then probably 120 a month for the first six months, then slowing down for the last half of 2020, but still the same numbers Jaww said above.

Those growth numbers with compounding will require about 18% more pilots in the next 4 years if it’s airframes and block hours. That’s 2700 pilots on top of retirements. I suspect they were talking ASM growth. With the fleet upsizing going on that requires far fewer pilots.

I'm not sure if I was clear, but the growth I was posting about was airframe growth. It was laid out on a slide that had aircraft orders and breakdown of numbers of each fleet per year. The percentages weren't my estimation, it was straight from the powerpoint slide.

Instructors are wishing the 787 since it’s a common type with 777. Won’t that just beat all.

My cynicism tells me this will change if we are about to vote on a TA and that growth will all be dependent on it’s approval. :rolleyes: We have absolutely no control of the fleet plan other than SCOPE. All the postulating is useless and irrelevant, but highly entertaining.

Well my cynicism is that 3 or 4% airframe growth probably won't equate to 3 or 4% pilot growth. We seem to be retiring people without replacing the same. :mad:

One guy told JG that the rotations and commutability have become total S*/+ which was great.

My guess is a wideboby fleeting decision will be made waaaay before any contract is close to being voted on.

Denny

I agree ... Ed isn't Richard.