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09-24-2020 | 01:32 PM

#199591

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Originally Posted by DLASFlyer

Customer here. I want to give a shout out to the two gentlemen who piloted Delta 2913 tonight. It was an Airbus 319. I was in 14A, right next to the number one engine which failed dramatically just before rotation. The pilots took off and leveled off before returning to SLC. We were airborne for 18 minutes and they even had time to make a reassuring PA. We stopped on the runway and were met by fire trucks. I was happy to learn the same crew was in command of the second try on a new aircraft.

I know you guys are going through hell with the prospects of furloughs and pay cuts. Performance under pressure and sound decision making like I witnessed tonight are why you guys deserve top pay and benefits. Keep your heads high.

When things are going smoothly, a computer could run everything. When things go bad, that is where experienced, trained, qualified pilots earn their keep. Just like heart surgeons.

09-24-2020 | 08:20 PM

#199592

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Originally Posted by DLASFlyer

I was happy to learn the same crew was in command of the second try on a new aircraft.

Please tell me this is incorrect.

09-24-2020 | 08:42 PM

#199593

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Please tell me this is incorrect.

Noticed that tidbit as well. Definitely not judging as they may have been fine and we are paid well to make that call, but the one time it happened to me I got significant pressure to head back out immediately in a different aircraft (I was at a different airline at the time). The FAs were shook up as hell and I decided it was the safest option for us all to be done for the day. Still think it was the right call.

09-25-2020 | 04:28 AM

#199594

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Originally Posted by MachJ

Please tell me this is incorrect.

When you declare a emergency at Delta you cant fly another leg until after you speak to the duty pilot and tell him you and your crew are fine to continue. The default is you are done for the day.

09-25-2020 | 06:37 AM

#199595

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When you declare a emergency at Delta you cant fly another leg until after you speak to the duty pilot and tell him you and your crew are fine to continue. The default is you are done for the day.

This was my experience when I experienced an engine failure shortly after takeoff on the first leg of a 3-day trip in 2011. Scheduling was ready to deadhead us out to re-join our rotation but the duty pilot stopped them and we were released from the remainder of our trip.

09-25-2020 | 06:47 AM

#199596

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Originally Posted by MachJ

Please tell me this is incorrect.

It was the same crew, both flight attendants and pilots. They had plenty of time to walk it off going from the end of A to the old C gates in SLC

09-25-2020 | 06:48 AM

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notEnuf

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Originally Posted by PaulFooley

Scheduling generally doesn't know the circumstances for the schedule adjustment unless they are told by the pilot or duty pilot. They just do their job to cover flying. This is why the duty pilot call is a requirement. BTW both pilots independently have evaluate there willingness to continue, just as with any other fitness for duty scenario. Regardless of the pressures to continue serious thought needs to given to the ability to duplicate the outcome on the very next flight. At a previous employer they would just shut you down, no questions and no decisions, just policy. It gives you time to reflect and document which is a big part of what happens next.

09-25-2020 | 07:12 AM

#199598

Viking busdvr

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Can someone in the Atlanta area reach out and help this troubled flight attendant?

https://www.ajc.com/news/nearly-60-c...BGCCIPVCUX7YQ/

09-27-2020 | 11:53 AM

#199599

Lifeisgood

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Originally Posted by Stryder

320 question. Where does it say the engines need a 2 min warm up? Captain and I looked and couldn't find it. All we found was the 5 min cold one. Is it just a carryover from the other fleets?

Not 320 guy, but typically vol. 1, before take off procedure.

09-27-2020 | 12:16 PM

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320 question. Where does it say the engines need a 2 min warm up? Captain and I looked and couldn't find it. All we found was the 5 min cold one. Is it just a carryover from the other fleets?

I’m not at Delta, but I’ve flown the 320 and remember the IAE engines had the warm-up time removed from my company’s manual, so you could start’em right near the runway if you wanted to. The 321 still had a 2-minute warm-up but that was a function of the center tank fuel transfer BIT after start-up rather than an actual engine requirement.

Last edited by sigler; 09-27-2020 at 12:31 PM.