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Isn't there a good possibility that every category in ATL will have MD's? Because that means no AEs into the categories, just VDs and MDs, right?
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Originally Posted by iceman49
(Post 728944)
Perhaps we should stop considering ourselves management or still in the squadron and acting that way. We punch the time card like everyone else. Someone talked about building the lines of the 76-400 ATL-CDG-JFK-AMS-ATL. The reply was about hotel and limo costs, ok so we are taking pilots off line for 4-6 weeks for training, oe etc...disrupting lots of lives to save on hotel and limo costs! Don't think its going to balence out, and if the plan doesn't work...move the aircraft again...think we will see another 2 or 3 ae's this year....done venting. Agreed on the mangement change...think RA is gone in less than 2 years.
Point is that I am trying to explain the why, not stating it is a good idea. My personal .02 is that it is dumb given the fact that the economy has not improved, we are moving jets based on guesses using modeling that has not been accurate over the last two years, (booking window is not six months but more in-line with one to three), our moving package sucks, no one can sell their houses, and this is the start of a long painful process for a few. If this was 2006 and the economy was rolling it would be different, but because our houses are not bought out from underneath us, it makes it really hard to move to where the flying it. (enough on my personal opinions for the day :rolleyes: ) In the end there will be more commuters, and more of us will need to voice our angst over the commuter policy. It is a choice, a choice between trying to keep your financial house of cards from falling, or willfully going in to Ch13 |
Is it just me, or does it seem like AA is sweating a little over this JAL thing? Maybe myself of the media are biased, but it seems they are coming off more desperate then DAL.
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Originally Posted by fishguy79
(Post 728943)
So are you saying the company should keep ATL pilots happy at the expense of everone else? That might have worked when you were 4000 out of 7000 pilots. Now that there are over 12k pilots, maybe ATL should not be the center of the universe:D
If this doesn't work they'll move the bids again in a few months. The problem is our contract does not compensate our costs to chase the jobs, or help us get to work in our new domiciles either. It is a concession from status quo. |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 728957)
In the end there will be more commuters, and more of us will need to voice our angst over the commuter policy. It is a choice, a choice between trying to keep your financial house of cards from falling, or willfully going in to Ch13
Not according to some on this board. :rolleyes: I, however, agree with you. ;) |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 728957)
Ice,
Point is that I am trying to explain the why, not stating it is a good idea. My personal .02 is that it is dumb given the fact that the economy has not improved, we are moving jets based on guesses using modeling that has not been accurate over the last two years, (booking window is not six months but more in-line with one to three), our moving package sucks, no one can sell their houses, and this is the start of a long painful process for a few. If this was 2006 and the economy was rolling it would be different, but because our houses are not bought out from underneath us, it makes it really hard to move to where the flying it. (enough on my personal opinions for the day :rolleyes: ) In the end there will be more commuters, and more of us will need to voice our angst over the commuter policy. |
Why's everyone on R A leaving? Now that we have the merger, can't think of anyone better to actually run it. There are a lot of moving parts and he wrote the assembly manual.
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Problem, as I have stated Ab is that there is not a bloodly thing we can do about it.
Half of these movements will be changed on the next bid. I look forward to a few types a long the way ;) |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 728956)
Isn't there a good possibility that every category in ATL will have MD's? Because that means no AEs into the categories, just VDs and MDs, right?
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