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tsquare 12-28-2009 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by satchip (Post 733188)
I had the same thought. Tsquare hates Urban Meyer as much as you North guys hate Lee Moak!:D

Naaaaah.. hate is a little strong. Can't stand... dispise... want him to get run over by a rabid buffalo... but not really hate...

tsquare 12-28-2009 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by Professor (Post 733926)
That and the fact that I may ONLY be a 3rd year first officer...but the fact that I make the inflation adjusted SAME amount that i made when I graduated from college in unforgivable.

//rant off//


I feel your pain. If I go to my 5th displacement choice, I will be making the same pay as I did in 1997. Wonderful.

Meyer still sucks. :D

tsquare 12-28-2009 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by freightguy (Post 733882)
What is a 'RAW' score...how can you manipulate it?:eek:

RAW = Really Awful Way (to schedule reserves).

There is a little witchdoctor down in hooterville that assigns short calls and trips to those sitting reserve.

-Bones Never Lie


But seriously, you can reduce your RAW score, but that will only guarantee you a 48 hour layover in DKR or POS.

kamsman 12-28-2009 03:34 PM

Can someone tell me if white slip is paid over and above 70 hours on a reserve line? I'm pretty sure I know green slip is but not sure about white..

Thanks

tsquare 12-28-2009 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by Razor (Post 733977)
Not the whole story... First they look at a Days of Availability Grouping and then look at RAW score within that list. I got called out for a two-day trip with three days of reserve availability and a RAW score of 114 (now 138!). I was the lowest of the guys on the list scheduling looked at. They didn't look at the list of guys with four days of reserve availability that had scores of 85. There must be a better way...


There is. It's called schedule by seniority regardless of this days of availability/CROC/RAW/ chicken bone throwing garbage. The acronyms alone that are involved are disgusting. Rube Goldberg is laughing his ass off wherever he is at how simple his contraptions look by comparison. Why is dalpa so bent on allowing the abrogation of seniority to satisfy a reserve system that the company wants? No sir. this system is wrong.. always has been. We need to go back to a SENIORITY based reserve system... yesterday.

rant over.

tsquare 12-28-2009 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by kamsman (Post 734056)
Can someone tell me if white slip is paid over and above 70 hours on a reserve line? I'm pretty sure I know green slip is but not sure about white..

Thanks

White slips are for regular lines only. You can't get one as a reserve pilot. GS for reserves only apply on X days, and are pay no credit. Does this help?

-Bones Never Lie

Superpilot92 12-28-2009 03:55 PM

pics of the "underwear"

Northwest Airlines Bomb Photos - ABC News

forgot to bid 12-28-2009 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 734063)

Thanks for not posting the real picture... oh the days when supers posts that involved underwear also involved a convertible and coeds. Damn terrorist ruin everything.

Superpilot92 12-28-2009 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 734067)
Thanks for not posting the real picture... oh the days when supers posts that involved underwear also involved a convertible and coeds. Damn terrorist ruin everything.

i didnt post the pics because i was concerned with geting an infraction for posting UNDERwear....;)

forgot to bid 12-28-2009 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 733974)
From what I could find out, they cannot give you two SCs in a row. Here's why:

The contract requires 10 hours of rest prior to a Short Call. Section 23.S.5.D:

A long call pilot...
d. can be converted to short call no earlier than ten hours from the first attempted contact by Crew Scheduling and will be released from duty during the ten hours immediately preceding the start of his short call period.

Second, a SC pilot cannot be on SC for more than:

a) 12 hours in domestic categories, or b) 24 hours in international categories.

As I see it, by putting you on SC for 2 days in a row, it's 48 hours.

Finally - Scrappy over in the scheduling forum of the ALPA site said,

"You cannot have true back to back SC on international because the PWA requires 10 hours rest prior to the start of SC. What they can do, but are not required to do, is truncate the first SC to provide for the 10 hour break between the two and then they are basically back to back."

in a response to someone else.

I'd either call scheduling and discuss it with them or ALPA.

Added: It could be they are planning on releasing you by 0500 to give you ten hours off before starting SC at 1500 on the 29th.

Earlier this month I did 4 short calls in a row, i.e. one day after the other for 4 straight days, on domestic reserve: 9am-9pm followed the next day by 10am-10pm and then 10am-10pm and then lastly 10am-10pm. I was not used for a single day, then the next day on LC I was used because it was a Saturday and they always use you on a weekend. Now, thats 14 of 17 days I was used if you count the SC, which of course has no raw score, thats what happens on the ATL M88 B.

I'd bid around ATL M88 B tonight if you guys get a chance.


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