Well, I have lived and been based in Cincinnati for 20+ years now, so I am pretty much right in the middle of that problem. We used to have almost 1000 pilots here, now we are down to 450 or so. Most of us think we will have to be making the choice to either commute or move pretty soon. If your base is closed you get a paid move, but that is a hard choice for a family. In the end, I think it is a choice, but that is just my opinion.

That would be a very low cost change. I know the scheduling guys and they work pretty hard to try to get improvements for all of us. Right now, SOC and the base realignments are sucking out all of the oxygen from flight ops. Maybe this is something that they can work on soon.

The jumpseat booking window would be easy to change. Whether it is 10 days or 3 days you are competing against the same population to book the jumpseat so I am not sure how that changes things that much. I guess for guys on those long trips it makes it easier to book ahead of time.

The call in honest program at NWA was better and I think everyone prefers that. It was a policy at NWA and not a contractual benefit so it is difficult to demand that policy. I am pretty sure ALPA is trying to get this policy as the new Delta policy. The whole mess with the flight attendant election is affecting flight operations decisions. It is not how it should be, but it is how it actually is. I think we should be able to get this policy in the end, we may just have to wait a little.

So the AE bid has been closed now for almost 15 minutes....I'm sure that's enough time for the computer to run it.........where are the results? This is an outrage!!!!

















Just wanted to be the first.....:D

Cherry Garcia - you are right. It is an outrage! If it isn't out by lunch we need to find the inflatable rat!

Alpha - the NWA Call in Honest would have made a lot of difference in how people bid. Many of us would have remained on the same airplane instead of taking a different position to remain in our preferred base.

The FA issue - such as it is - cost the Company a lot of training. Training that will be for a very short term use of pilots if ACL65 was correct that this spring will see a bid which reinstates many to their previously held positions.

Anyone got a theory as to when we'll learn our fate? I mean, when will the results of the bid be posted?

If anyone did bid to commute, how did you make the math work on that? On the narrow body jets, for FO's, a guy would have to really, really, hate Douglas equipment to chase a A320, or 737, across the Country for 5 to 7 hours a month equivalent pay.

They are planning on posting the results on the first. I think that is fair. We can wait.

They have been running results through the whole thing to see how big the bid is. They will run it a few times with a few different things taken out. The will try to minimize the training footprint as much as possible.

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Anyone got a theory as to when we'll learn our fate? I mean, when will the results of the bid be posted? quote]

Well the bid said for sure not until the 1st. I would doubt that anyone would work on the 1st except they need to give people scheduled for training x number of days notice. So my guess is the 1st or the 4th or sometime in january or not at all. There covered all my bets:o

Fish, call em, they will tell ya they are "planning" the first. I bet they can do that from home! ;)

Not until SOC is publically announced, probably some time after the new year.

Denny

What can they change? The bid is for surplus and open positions as posted on the AE. Can they just decide to change the numbers?