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acl65pilot 01-02-2010 02:10 AM

Well if is incorrect, you may want to inform the pilot in charge here at DAL. They state that to flow you need to meet the DAL mins to flow.

FlyinPiker 01-02-2010 02:38 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 736483)

They could assign training by the 4th, but they'd have to get real busy. The CPSC said Crew Planning / Training took New Years day off.

They started calling people yesterday with more to follow.

acl65pilot 01-02-2010 02:49 AM

No call yet. It would be great to go from one training event to the next training event. Money well spent.

contrails 01-02-2010 03:30 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 736557)
Well if is incorrect, you may want to inform the pilot in charge here at DAL. They state that to flow you need to meet the DAL mins to flow.

No, that is what I mean.

Hockeypilot asserts that one can skip college and get to DAL via a flow, which is incorrect.

Tomcat 01-02-2010 03:36 AM

AE/VD Question
 
Here's to all you gurus that have this wired.

I put in for XYZ @ 60%..... I was not awarded this and there appears there were still some seats remaining. It's a brand new category. I looked at all the pilots that were awarded this category and in the end, it appears I would have been 53%, although I still need to see the official category list. What am I missing? My VD's match the AE and there were displacements off my previous category.

From TWG Notepad 09-18

Bidding for Vacancies or Surpluses
You enter your ‘standing bid’ in DBMS through iCrew/eCrew. Your standing bid may consist of up to three separate bid entries (AE, MD and VD.) For each preference, you may specify one of three seniority restrictions on the award to that category:
• LOW NBR – You are awarded the category only if you are at or above your specified minimum number in the category at the end of the conversion window.
LOW % - You are awarded the category only if you are at or above your specified minimum percentage of the category at the end of the conversion window.
• REG ONLY- You are awarded the category only if you are projected to be a regular line holder at the end of the conversion window.Any suggestions on who to call with questions?

TC:cool:

contrails 01-02-2010 03:36 AM

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sailingfun 01-02-2010 03:54 AM


Originally Posted by Tomcat (Post 736563)
Here's to all you gurus that have this wired.

I put in for XYZ @ 60%..... I was not awarded this and there appears there were still some seats remaining. It's a brand new category. I looked at all the pilots that were awarded this category and in the end, I would have been 53%. What am I missing? My VD's match the AE and there were displacements off my previous category.

From TWG Notepad 09-18

Bidding for Vacancies or Surpluses
You enter your ‘standing bid’ in DBMS through iCrew/eCrew. Your standing bid may consist of up to three separate bid entries (AE, MD and VD.) For each preference, you may specify one of three seniority restrictions on the award to that category:
• LOW NBR – You are awarded the category only if you are at or above your specified minimum number in the category at the end of the conversion window.
• LOW % - You are awarded the category only if you are at or above your specified minimum percentage of the category at the end of the conversion window.
• REG ONLY- You are awarded the category only if you are projected to be a regular line holder at the end of the conversion window.

Any suggestions on who to call with questions?

TC:cool:


Much of the bid is worked by hand. Use the normal 1 800 number and select crew planning from the options. They will add you to the bid if your info is correct. Keep in mind that to get the AE someone junior to you will have to have been awarded a AE to that category. To get the VD you have to use the seniority of the person who would have been displaced. Its possible lots of guys VD and MD into a category but no one junior to you got a AE and your VD might not have had the seniority to hold it. If thats not the case give them a call and they will give you the bid.

hockeypilot44 01-02-2010 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by contrails (Post 736556)
You come across in almost every post as not only bitter, but uninformed.

Are you going to be like that for the net three decades at your employer? :(

The meat of my short little post here is, it was mentioned that applicants must meet the Delta hiring mins as well as the requirements to flow. So what you've sarcastically suggested (or maybe not) is incorrect.

This is a web board. It doesn't do a very good job of representing me. I am not bitter, enjoy my family, and enjoy going to work. The only thing I post about on here are the things that bother me. It might come off the wrong way, but so be it. It is my way of venting, and it makes me feel better.

Vikz09 01-02-2010 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by contrails (Post 736562)
No, that is what I mean.

Hockeypilot asserts that one can skip college and get to DAL via a flow, which is incorrect.


Not to throw more confusion to the subject, but i am a compass pilot and our LOA pertaining to the flow thru does not mention needing a college degree. I assume that is because when compass came into exsistance it was to mirror NWA and the hiring practices at NWA. Now that Delta requires the degree it will be something that needs to be addressed. Delta's college degree requriment, would superseed this i assume... but that is above my pay grade or postion of power.

That being said. There is only 1 pilot i know at compass that does not have a college degree. Of the 360 pilots i imagine there are less then 5 that don't have a college degree, not much of a issue. This will become i issue in latter years once everyone airline starts to hire. Once delta starts to hire Compass will only provide 25% of its seniorty list 80-90 pilots a year. The problem will be at Compass not replacing the 80-90 pilots but also replacing the guys on the low end of the seniorty list who have way to much experience to be hear in the first place. Guys/Gals from everywhere American, United, ATA, Champion, Aloha, Midwest, JAL etc. will not be waiting around for a flow.

I imagine i will be faced with the decision to flow later this year. I would be in the first or possibly second class if it begins. 35 years old 5000 hours of 121 pic jet time. This is pretty common amongst the first 60 pilots from compass.

Cogf16 01-02-2010 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 736554)
All correct. Most will get reinstated if they want to be. 300 is a low number for new bodies.

Re the post about the VP in ATL talking about things, specifically CVG ER being "given a chance" I have also heard INTL is on the uptick and they like having CVG ER guys in place for possible short notice new or "reinstated" INTL flying. Heard they may still restart CVG to LGW/FRA/AMS for this summer. I know, I know, wishful thinking. Anyone else hear similar? At least I can still drive to work...for now

7ER, A
CVG


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