Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
01-08-2010, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
If you're looking at pure north/south moves (meaning base AND equipment, not SLC M88 to MSP M88 or MSP 320 to SLC 320), then there were 228 South pilots that moved to North bases and equipment and 227 North pilots that moved to South bases and equipment. There will be a slight change to these numbers when the bid error for frozen categories is finally corrected (approximately 20 guys, with about 60 trickle downs), but it shouldn't change the ratio substantially.
The seniority list worked as a seniority list should.
The seniority list worked as a seniority list should.
01-08-2010, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
I personally am tired of the whining. I'm tired of the entitlement mentality. I'm tired of the ignorance and revision of history. Not that you have to be understanding of my fatigue, but I challenge some here to look in the mirror and see if they see a reflection of reality. "I got screwed..."
Yeah, right...
Your butt got saved, and that's both premerger groups.
Yeah, right...
Your butt got saved, and that's both premerger groups.
Slow, the bad news......it took a strike to tamp down all the red/green moaning. Good look to us all.
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01-08-2010, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric Stratton
E1Out,
How many Dal south guys were bumped out of a WB seat by Dal north pilots on your last bid? Was the migration to ATL as bad as some projected? I'm just curious how things turned out.
How many Dal south guys were bumped out of a WB seat by Dal north pilots on your last bid? Was the migration to ATL as bad as some projected? I'm just curious how things turned out.
01-08-2010, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by NERD
New,
I have always enjoyed your posts and now that I know who you are even more. As always it was good talking to you the other day. Happy new year and congrats again on your latest accomplishment.
I have always enjoyed your posts and now that I know who you are even more. As always it was good talking to you the other day. Happy new year and congrats again on your latest accomplishment.
It was great talking to you. Now that you got your spot back and you might actually have to work, I'm sure I'll see you around campus more. Congrats on that. As for your congrats to me, I'm just glad it's over. The latest accomplishment is probably the last. I quit!
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01-08-2010, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
The answer is in Section 1 of the PWA. Once a number is established it doesn't have to be reduced unless they furlough Delta pilots.
Originally Posted by slowplay
No, they can't reduce our flying to zero unless they don't furlough and continue to pay us. That would be a nice paid vacation...
Originally Posted by slowplay
Your comment about RJ's remaining constant is bogus as well. Just prior to the merger the combined NWA Airlink/DCI fleet was over 800 aircraft. It is at 680 now, with 50 more aircraft to be reduced this year. Even with the DC-9's leaving the fleet, the Connections are parking at over 3 times the rate. DCI block hours are shrinking in comparison to mainline as well.
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Did you not get your morning glimpse of Kiffin's wife? (all things UT to you
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01-08-2010, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
You ready?
BTW, there is a sizeable number in this audience tonight and on this forums who will be noting the differences between Texas and Alabama girls on the sidelines. Good luck to the both of you, we'll see who the camera likes.
BTW, there is a sizeable number in this audience tonight and on this forums who will be noting the differences between Texas and Alabama girls on the sidelines. Good luck to the both of you, we'll see who the camera likes.
The Million Dollar band needs to look into Jenny Craig... ugh...
01-08-2010, 10:26 AM
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duplicated effort
01-08-2010, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Model Citezen
Slo,
I believe we went from a 30 Billion dollar company to 24 billion during 2009..... that about a 20% drop in revenue (not 45%). The Amex deal is to provide 2 Billion over the course of the contract. We got a check for 1 Billion at the start of 2009. We should have another 500 million this year and 500 million next year. Although we might have experienced a "short term" 45% downturn, the worst financial numbers I have read about show a 25% drop over the summer quarter and we are ending the year off just about 20% for 2009. I am not picking on you, just want to make sure facts and figures don't start becoming urban legends.
I believe we went from a 30 Billion dollar company to 24 billion during 2009..... that about a 20% drop in revenue (not 45%). The Amex deal is to provide 2 Billion over the course of the contract. We got a check for 1 Billion at the start of 2009. We should have another 500 million this year and 500 million next year. Although we might have experienced a "short term" 45% downturn, the worst financial numbers I have read about show a 25% drop over the summer quarter and we are ending the year off just about 20% for 2009. I am not picking on you, just want to make sure facts and figures don't start becoming urban legends.
Take a look at Delta's Investor Day presentation (it's on Delta.com under Investor Relations). You'll see that June corporate revenue was down 45% YOY. The trend line is encouraging, but that's because the YOY comparables are so bad (Oct-Dec 2008 was awful as well). We're still down about 10.5% full year comparing 2009 with 2007. Those are SEC disclosed facts, not urban legends. Oh, our peak annual revenue was $34 billion in 2008, falling to less than $28 billion this year. While some of that decline (about 30%) was mitigated by lower average fuel prices and lower operating costs due to reduced capacity, the net effect was $4 billion less in cash flow for debt service, fleet renewal, and payraises. Put any of those facts into the premerger standalone Delta/NWA business plans and tell me what they look like.
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01-08-2010, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
You'll always find yourself cheering for your rival.
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01-08-2010, 10:29 AM
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Is there any place we can actually read the marketing agreement between DL and AS?
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