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Old 01-11-2010 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Burn Notice
Buzz, I feel your pain. Did it for 4 years. Loved the plane once I figured out VNAV (my first glass). I was surprised when I came to the 765 that it doesn't always hold everything together either. Not to the extremes of the -800 but not up to the high standards I had heard about on the vaunted 767. Of course I don't discount operator error!

PS--6.6 hrs, JFK-SEA, winter, pre- inseat video. Loooong flight in an -800!
Don't know about that. 3 years on the 765 and never got violated. I thought everything worked perfect. After the 727, my favorite airplane to date is the 767-400.
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Old 01-11-2010 | 06:34 PM
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Hey ACL,

Any word on what kind of "Branch" we are setting up in the PI? If involves flying this is going to get real interesting......

BusinessWorld Online: Delta Air Lines to open branch in RP


Delta Air Lines to open branch in RP

The world’s largest airline, Delta Air Lines, Inc., has been given the go-signal to set up a branch in the country, documents from the Securities and Exchange Commission showed.

The corporate regulator has allowed Delta Air Lines to transact business and to establish a branch in the Philippines. The office will be engaged in “international air transportation services.”

The Philippine office has an authorized capital of P9.4 million consisting of 1.5 billion common shares and 500,000 preferred share at a par value of $0.0001 apiece.

No other details were given and officials from Delta Air Lines could not be reached for comment.

Delta Air Lines is the world’s largest airline in terms of passenger traffic, fleet size, and annual revenue, operating an extensive domestic and international network that has a flight to every continent except Antarctica.

Last year, the airline merged with Northwest Airline Corp. to form the world’s largest commercial carrier. As a result of the merger, Northwest became a wholly owned subsidiary, which Delta Air Lines said would allow it to better manage economic cycles and volatile fuel prices, among others.

The merger is expected to give Delta Air Lines $2 billion in annual revenue and a more comprehensive and diversified route system.

Northwest operates various ticketing office in the country
Old 01-11-2010 | 06:55 PM
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I missed the discussion on the cap and greenslips, but I have to throw my opinon out there so everyone can jump on my case. The Cap should be gone when we don't have guys furloughed period. I'm cool with a cap when guys are on the street, but we don't need it when they are not. I realize it may cause them to hire less people, but I'm not a fan of creating inefficiencies just to create jobs. Let those who want to pick up time pick it up. We need the cap gone in 2012 with a clause that it returns if we furlough. I don't want to pay 1.95% of my pay and have my ability to earn what I want to limited. We should be free to fly as much as we want until guys are furloughed, then a cap should be implemented.
Old 01-11-2010 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Cargo may be a Phoenix. Time will tell.
Is it going to rise from the ashes in the RP flown by foreign pilots under another brand?
Old 01-11-2010 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by TANSTAAFL
Is it going to rise from the ashes in the RP flown by foreign pilots under another brand?
Not according to how I understand it.
Old 01-11-2010 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TANSTAAFL
Hey ACL,

Any word on what kind of "Branch" we are setting up in the PI? If involves flying this is going to get real interesting......

BusinessWorld Online: Delta Air Lines to open branch in RP


Delta Air Lines to open branch in RP

The world’s largest airline, Delta Air Lines, Inc., has been given the go-signal to set up a branch in the country, documents from the Securities and Exchange Commission showed.

The corporate regulator has allowed Delta Air Lines to transact business and to establish a branch in the Philippines. The office will be engaged in “international air transportation services.”

The Philippine office has an authorized capital of P9.4 million consisting of 1.5 billion common shares and 500,000 preferred share at a par value of $0.0001 apiece.

No other details were given and officials from Delta Air Lines could not be reached for comment.

Delta Air Lines is the world’s largest airline in terms of passenger traffic, fleet size, and annual revenue, operating an extensive domestic and international network that has a flight to every continent except Antarctica.

Last year, the airline merged with Northwest Airline Corp. to form the world’s largest commercial carrier. As a result of the merger, Northwest became a wholly owned subsidiary, which Delta Air Lines said would allow it to better manage economic cycles and volatile fuel prices, among others.

The merger is expected to give Delta Air Lines $2 billion in annual revenue and a more comprehensive and diversified route system.

Northwest operates various ticketing office in the country

I am aware of one deal for a few jets.
Old 01-11-2010 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
I missed the discussion on the cap and greenslips, but I have to throw my opinon out there so everyone can jump on my case. The Cap should be gone when we don't have guys furloughed period. I'm cool with a cap when guys are on the street, but we don't need it when they are not. I realize it may cause them to hire less people, but I'm not a fan of creating inefficiencies just to create jobs. Let those who want to pick up time pick it up. We need the cap gone in 2012 with a clause that it returns if we furlough. I don't want to pay 1.95% of my pay and have my ability to earn what I want to limited. We should be free to fly as much as we want until guys are furloughed, then a cap should be implemented.
I completely disagree, but to each his own. If I were the plug, I know I wouldn't want guys doing 90+ hours each month to keep them from hiring. ALV+15 is plenty IMHO.
Old 01-11-2010 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
I am aware of one deal for a few jets.
Based in a RP DAL "branch"? Flown by DAL pilots?

Please expound....
Old 01-11-2010 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Hey Burn, I did a 17.6 in the C-141 with two air refuelings back in the Desert Storm days. I thought that was bad. I think the 6.1 in the 800 is much worse. At least on the Starlizard, I could get up, walk around, play some racquetball, take a nap, etc. (Not really). The 800? Well, at least we got crew meals. Not very good, but they were crew meals. "We've got the going for us." Shout out to you Carl.
MMmmmmm....crew meals...

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Old 01-11-2010 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
I missed the discussion on the cap and greenslips, but I have to throw my opinon out there so everyone can jump on my case. The Cap should be gone when we don't have guys furloughed period. I'm cool with a cap when guys are on the street, but we don't need it when they are not. I realize it may cause them to hire less people, but I'm not a fan of creating inefficiencies just to create jobs. Let those who want to pick up time pick it up. We need the cap gone in 2012 with a clause that it returns if we furlough. I don't want to pay 1.95% of my pay and have my ability to earn what I want to limited. We should be free to fly as much as we want until guys are furloughed, then a cap should be implemented.

Boy is that shortsighted career and quality of life wise. You will force everyone to fly a lower paying seat and then they have to work even more to make up the difference. A cap is the cornerstone of the contract. Without it everything else becomes meaningless.

Delta essentially operates almost a capless airline now. We made all those changes in the last 10 years. If we went back to a real cap and the vacation system we used to have Delta would have 16,000 pilots today. We had over 10,000 permerger. By the time the 1113 stuff was over we had under 7000 flying the line but the kicker was that number was flying the same amount of block hours as before with the big shift to international.

If you want to sell all your future advancement down the window and be a copilot virtually forever then push for no caps. Keep in mind management is also going to tell you that you don't need and pay raises because your getting it flying more hours and will try and get the higher hours written into future contracts forcing everyone to fly more.

No Cap is a really really bad idea. The current system lifting the cap for double pay is fine. What we really neeed is to go back to training and vacation being pay and credit and moving the current cap down to the line construction window and applying it to swaps and pickups. Then you will see some movement and a huge improvement in quality of life.
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