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Old 12-04-2009, 11:44 AM
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Heyas Guys,

Such are the hazards of arbitration.

You want the house, your ex wants the boat. The judge takes a chainsaw and gives you each half the house and half the boat, both of which are useless.

Sometimes what looks like "a win" isn't really a win at all. I'm not sayin' anything...I'm just sayin'...

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Old 12-04-2009, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
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Not sure that is technically true. I think that a DALN guy getting a bid in the category would exercise his/her seniority for monthly bidding purposes but if any one got displaced out of the category or someone bid in later, then they would be the first to go regardless of where they sit in the category. I believe the same is true for any DALS guy regards the 747/787.

The following is directly from the Conditions and Restrictions:

7. If there are insufficient bidders from one pre-merger pilot group for a posted or contingent vacancy on one side of the fence during the period covered by Paragraph 4., unfilled vacancies may be filled by pilots from the other pre-merger airline.
8. A pilot awarded a position (via an AE, MD or VD) to a category as a result of insufficient bidders will, for the purposes of processing future displacements in accordance with Section 22 F. of the JCBA, be considered as junior to all pilots from the pre-merger pilot group that was entitled to that category.

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Old 12-04-2009, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
Heyas Guys,

Such are the hazards of arbitration.

You want the house, your ex wants the boat. The judge takes a chainsaw and gives you each half the house and half the boat, both of which are useless.

Sometimes what looks like "a win" isn't really a win at all. I'm not sayin' anything...I'm just sayin'...

Nu
Did you see Tiger offered his wife a resigning bonus?
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Old 12-04-2009, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Did you see Tiger offered his wife a resigning bonus?

Did you hear that Tiger changed his name???
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Old 12-04-2009, 12:28 PM
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Steve's Code-A-Phone is out and discusses the AE

I call firsts!!! DISCUSS
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Old 12-04-2009, 12:33 PM
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To ensure compliance with the PWA, the bid results will not be posted until on or after FAA approval of our Single Operating Certificate (SOC), which is currently planned for December 31st. Our goal is to position pilots on the right equipment throughout the system and provide the best support possible for the summer 2010 Network block hour plan. The good news is that the current 2010 summer peak pilot block hour requirement will be 5.7% higher than what we flew in 2009, but that brings the challenge of a significant training effort during the first half of 2010 in order for us to successfully meet these block hour requirements.

Under normal circumstances, we would not consider posting an extensive AE bid over a major holiday; however, given both the contractual constraints surrounding SOC and the requirement to have the majority of the training done by the summer, posting this bid now gives us the largest window available to complete the training and be ready to meet the demands of the summer schedule. It is imperative for us to provide detailed Network information for you to make informed decisions prior to posting your preferences, but I also want to make sure that we have a high degree of confidence that the Network information we provide you is accurate and most likely will not change. More specific information will be provided in a few days when the bid is posted.

At this time, we are anticipating a more than 10% increase in narrow-body aircraft utilization that will lead to a system-wide staffing increase on the 737-800, A320 and MD88/90 aircraft. To accomplish this, we will reduce staffing in some wide-body categories. Additionally, while DC9-50 aircraft will remain in Delta’s fleet, we are planning to retire all DC9-30 and 40 aircraft by October 2010, which will lead to surpluses in the DC9 categories. The SLC MD88 categories will be closed and MSP MD88 categories will be opened as MD90 flying is moved from SLC to MSP. These MSP MD88 categories will be MD90 qualified. SLC A320 categories will also be opened to take advantage of the different operational capabilities of the A320 as compared to the MD90. The majority of the SLC positions will be funded by increased utilization of the A320 which will require relatively few displacements from existing A320 categories.

Additionally, due to an increase in daily 765 departures out of JFK to Europe’s business centers, we have decided to open NYC 765 categories which will result in a reduction in the number of positions in the ATL 765 categories. Finally, because of a decrease in flying on the 777 out of JFK and the recently announced 777 departures out of DTW to Pu Dong Shanghai, Incheon Korea, and Hong Kong, the NYC 777 categories will be closed and DTW 777 categories will be opened. While additional basing realignment decisions will likely be made later in 2010 and into 2011, our training constraints limit any further actions in the immediate future...
Surpluses on NWA side = bye bye ATL for DAL-S junior guys. So much for "no windfall."
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Old 12-04-2009, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Spacemann Splif
Surpluses on NWA side = bye bye ATL for DAL-S junior guys. So much for "no windfall."
surpluses on the dc9 which will be consumed by the increase in narrowbody flying. We all knew that the MD-90 would start replacing the dc9's and thus the dc9 pilots would have to shift to md88-90 qualified.

Looks like I may get my seat back on the Bus afterall
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Old 12-04-2009, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Superpilot92

Looks like I may get my seat back on the Bus afterall
sure...after me. I'd look good in the Bus in MSP.

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Old 12-04-2009, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Spacemann Splif
sure...after I've had a crack at it. I'd look good in the Bus in MSP.

-Spliff
getter dun!! You can have MSP though My recall rights should help get me back into it on this bid but the question will be if i have to switch bases or not Its a good thing I'm already a commuter
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Old 12-04-2009, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Superpilot92
getter dun!! You can have MSP though My recall rights should help get me back into it on this bid but the question will be if i have to switch bases or not Its a good thing I'm already a commuter

I's got some figgurin to do on this bid. One way or the other.. with no A330 coming to ATL I am TOAST out of my seat.
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