Ugh, Not looking forward to those types of legs in that jet. Much prefer the 767, but at least the overnights are better.

So, will I like the jet, or beg to go back?

 

Looks like SkyTeam in the coming years may have a very strong presence in Asia.

Korean Airlines: Member
China Southern: Member
Vietnam Airlines: Member by June (scheduled)
China Airlines: Very Likely
Japan Airlines: Likely
China Eastern: Definite Maybe
Malaysia Airlines: Definite Maybe

Add so smaller associate potentials such as Bangkok Airways.

 

Heyas,

I can't see us going for the Spirit birds. Way different engines, and a different EFIS setup entirely.

I'd rather see us get the ATA 757-300 birds...which I'm not even sure if they're available anymore.

Nu

 

I love the jet. You'll love it. Similar cockpit ergonomics as the 777. I love the way it flies, very stable. Its a beeyatch to slow down but when you understand that, its not a problem. The VNAV airspeed control is lacking. Plus 10 or minus 15 knots to hold the path. Gotta keep an eye on that. The cockpit is the tightest I've ever flown in. On a good note: most of the CA's I fly with are great, so that works out well. You'll have better trips out of ATL. We're down to mostly red eyes in LAX. Also, take a look at the Feb bid package. More than half of our rotations are flying out of SNA! That's a huge change.

 

Which one?

 

... so which airplane can do a VNAV path, hold speed and make a restriction? I'm thinking the 767 but I never put it through any paces flying the ER.

Yesterday coming into Atlanta the controller said they were using a new ATC system to control arrival rates and that its been working really good for them. I think the acronym was TMU or T-something. But I also just read that newsletter about Atilia and while I applaud the effort to take the criticism head on it still seems to me that without verification from the crew that they are partcipating that the programs benefits cannot be measured or proved. So with that said, if ATC has a new and improved system to handle flow then do we need Atilia?

 

ATLANTA (AP) - Attention air travelers: That tug at your wallet is about to happen again, courtesy of the world's biggest airline.

Delta Air Lines Inc. is raising its fees to check your first bag on a domestic flight by $8 and the second bag by $7. That will mean $23 for the first bag and $32 for the second.

It will continue to cost you even more if you don't pay the fees in advance on the airline's Web site. Delta is calling that add-on a surcharge _ $2 for the first bag and $3 for the second. You will have to pay the surcharges if you check your bags at an airport ticket counter, kiosk or curbside.

The new fees are for travel beginning Tuesday on tickets purchased on or after Jan. 5. Tickets purchased before then, regardless of when the travel begins, are subject to the current fees _ $15 for the first bag and $25 for the second.

The domestic bag fee increases apply to travel in coach within the 50 states, U.S. Virgin Islands, Canada and Puerto Rico.

Elite frequent fliers, first class fliers and certain other customers, including active military personnel on deployment, are exempt from the fees.

A Delta spokeswoman called the airline's fees "competitive" with other carriers.

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Up yours SWA?

 

From the former 76 guys I fly with, the 800 (and 700) are much worse. They hold the path great, but "path is king" and the jet will slow drammatically to hold the path. I fly the VNAV arrivals in LA all the time. Its just a matter of manually adjusting the throttles, even with AT engaged, to keep the speed where you need it. Our VNAV was supposed to get better with the new 700 software. It didn't. In fact, in many ways, its worse. The old software built a geometric descent path that drew lines from VNAV point to VNAV point. The new software dives and drives to make restrictions. Seems to me, its a lot more throttle movements with no value added.

 

Dude,
I did like 5 years on the 767 classic + 3 on the 400 THEN came the 800. When I got displaced back to FO on the ER I never looked back and said "man I miss the 800." I DO miss the CA paycheck. It's called a baby Boeing for a reason: a whiny, crying, loud, little baby.

BD

 

I wish they would just include these fees in the ticket price. It would be easier on our agents and flight attendants. The big kicker is it is free to gate check so everyone just carries everything to the plane knowing it will not fit in an overhead.