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forgot to bid 01-15-2010 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 745067)
According to the memo we will be @ 28 MD90's making us the 2nd largest operator behind Saudi Airlines who operates 29. I think DAL will soon be the largest operator of the MD90. ;)

I'm sure we're about to tack on 16 more MD-90s from JAL bringing the total to 44. In fact I thought that was stated somewhere official that if JAL happened we'd be taking their already unwanted MD-90s.

Superpilot92 01-15-2010 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by JobHopper (Post 745072)
He didn't have any details.

I was told the same about the -50's and that if they do it then they plan on keeping them possibly up to 2018 which would be the same lifespan as the DC9-30/40s have had.

acl65pilot 01-15-2010 06:41 PM

It was over 40 without the JAL birds.

RockyBoy 01-15-2010 06:42 PM

We had 16 90's originally. I think we have 3 from Hello Airlines sitting in the desert that we got last fall. The 9 from China Eastern would give us a total of 28.

forgot to bid 01-15-2010 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 745075)
I was told the same about the -50's and that if they do it then they plan on keeping them possibly up to 2018 which would be the same lifespan as the DC9-30/40s have had.

If you match the 88 then everyone can fly the 88 and 9, but matching might be more expensive then just having someone like Innovative Solutions & Support do a new cockpit that is not only advanced but lighter and requiring less power. From what I can tell reading on line a 756 IS&S cockpit upgrade is $400K. I know that to transform a 1970s/1980s steam gauge Citaiton or King Air into a full glass cockpit with a digitial AP runs $300K and $250K out the door. There are more expensive multi-million dollar upgrades aimed at corporate operators who have more cents then sense, or used to at least.

I wonder if they put newer common PFDs, engine instruments and FMS' in the 88, 9 and 90 and not change anything else if that could give them enough to sign off on a single fleet? That'd be funny.

Or retrofit the -50s with the Saudi MD-90 cockpit, call that one fleet type and then lets just aquire every MD-90 ever built.

Anyways, long live the 9 and the longer 9. ;)

forgot to bid 01-15-2010 07:27 PM

List of MD-90s in the world before we took 3 from Hello and 9 from China Eastern:

Saudi Arabian Airlines (29) (Middle East, phasing the type out)
Delta Air Lines (16) (College Park Georgia now has 12 more MD-90s)
Japan Airlines (16) (Asia)
China Southern (13) (Asia)
Uni Air (11) (Asia)
China Eastern (9) (Asia, now sending 9 to DAL)
Hello Airlines (6) (Asia, now only 3 with 3 to DAL)
Blue1 (5) (Finland)
Lion Air (5) (Asia)

Superpilot92 01-15-2010 07:29 PM

well the military already has a decent conversion on their C-9s that should be easy to duplicate. Its a PAID for 124 seat aircraft that with some minor mods, can be utilized for a lot more years.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...-5328n-358.jpg

alfaromeo 01-15-2010 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by iceman49 (Post 744963)
Alpha, you say you are not on the MEC, and you have not attended an MEC meeting in a long time...you also say you are not MEM based...so how do you come up with your assesment of the MEM LEC officers?

"Mistrust and arrogance are antithetical to inspired and inspiring leadership" Gen Shinseki

I have seen their public communications, I have seen the stories they tell that are related here, and I have talked with people that are still involved in the union.

RockyBoy 01-15-2010 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 745093)
If you match the 88 then everyone can fly the 88 and 9, but matching might be more expensive then just having someone like Innovative Solutions & Support do a new cockpit that is not only advanced but lighter and requiring less power. From what I can tell reading on line a 756 IS&S cockpit upgrade is $400K. I know that to transform a 1970s/1980s steam gauge Citaiton or King Air into a full glass cockpit with a digitial AP runs $300K and $250K out the door. There are more expensive multi-million dollar upgrades aimed at corporate operators who have more cents then sense, or used to at least.

I wonder if they put newer common PFDs, engine instruments and FMS' in the 88, 9 and 90 and not change anything else if that could give them enough to sign off on a single fleet? That'd be funny.

Anyways, long live the 9 and the long 9. ;)

I think before the Feds would sign off on a common fleet you would have to have an FMS system and FGCP in the -9 that was similar to the 88's. I would think that glass vs. non-glass is less of an issue than the FMS system. CAL flies round dial 767's and glass 767 400's in a common fleet, so the glass issue isn't tha big of a deal to the feds.

Superpilot92 01-15-2010 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 745100)
I think before the Feds would sign off on a common fleet you would have to have an FMS system and FGCP in the -9 that was similar to the 88's. I would think that glass vs. non-glass is less of an issue than the FMS system. CAL flies round dial 767's and glass 767 400's in a common fleet, so the glass issue isn't tha big of a deal to the feds.

would this work?


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