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FlyingViking 01-16-2010 06:12 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 745176)
....Sould be an interesting year.

To say the least. Any idea what will happend to the 37 747 that they have? The Kyozera guy wants them off the property ASAP if I am reading him right.

Scoop 01-16-2010 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 745104)


Super,

I have flown the Navy DC-9s, pre-upgrade C-9Bs, and the upgraded
C-9Bs. While the upgrade did have a few glitches at first the system worked well and the Navy flies those aircraft worldwide in RVSM and RNP required airspace.

The problem with the Navy conversion would be the cost. Due to the arcane military funding procedures the Navy at times would spend more $ then aircraft were worth upgrading aircraft. I don't know an exact amount but I know the Navy spent a lot on these upgrades - I heard it was in the 7 figure range. I'm sure DAL could get a better deal. But as in all things it will come down to the almighty dollar. :rolleyes:

Scoop

alfaromeo 01-16-2010 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 745190)
OK, let's start getting some opinions here.

With JAL dropping international routes, do you guys really think we will get any of them? I mean, I could see the Japanese govt giving a bunch to ANA to keep it in country.

Plus, what would JAL be flying that we weren't already? Unless this deal somehow gets us some more access to Haneda that other US carriers don't have, what good is it for the pilots? I realize it can be good for the company because it will further increase our destinations and possibly our income/profit(which is clearly good for us) but from a flying standpoint does anyone see a potential increase in WB flying as a result of this?

Anyone chime in please. Alfa, sailingfun, PG, slowplay, modelcitizen, sinkr8, ACL65, etc............lets hear it! :D

I think the first change will be an upgauge in aircraft to Narita. The Japanese government would be foolish to cut off all of JAL's feed and give it to ANA. My guess would be that Delta would add some other cities to feed NRT, perhaps by converting some of the A-330-200's to be able to go more than 12 hours. They could also convert some more 767's with a rest module and the winglets.

My thoughts are this will not cause the flood gates to open on wide body flying, but there will be a noticeable increase, especially in 2011. (assuming the press reports are true)

johnso29 01-16-2010 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 745205)
I think the first change will be an upgauge in aircraft to Narita. The Japanese government would be foolish to cut off all of JAL's feed and give it to ANA. My guess would be that Delta would add some other cities to feed NRT, perhaps by converting some of the A-330-200's to be able to go more than 12 hours. They could also convert some more 767's with a rest module and the winglets.

My thoughts are this will not cause the flood gates to open on wide body flying, but there will be a noticeable increase, especially in 2011. (assuming the press reports are true)

Interesting. Thanks alfa. :)

acl65pilot 01-16-2010 06:34 AM


Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 745205)
I think the first change will be an upgauge in aircraft to Narita. The Japanese government would be foolish to cut off all of JAL's feed and give it to ANA. My guess would be that Delta would add some other cities to feed NRT, perhaps by converting some of the A-330-200's to be able to go more than 12 hours. They could also convert some more 767's with a rest module and the winglets.

My thoughts are this will not cause the flood gates to open on wide body flying, but there will be a noticeable increase, especially in 2011. (assuming the press reports are true)

Agreed.
DAL needs to gauge the reaction of ANA, CAL/UAUA and other on this. If they all rush to market to make up for the lost lift, there is no benefit for DAL to add anything. read no gain in yield. The opposite is true to.
I cannot see the Japanese government giving all the international lift to ANA, but then again, there is not much open about Open-Skies.

I see some more big jet lift for the pacific rim. I also see us up-gauging some of our feed to our flights. (I think that places like DFW,LAX,ORD,SFO,JFK etc stand to lose 400-1000 seats a day to NRT alone in JAL truly cuts that many routes.

The first domino has been pushed.....

acl65pilot 01-16-2010 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 745183)
Never too soon to start talking about the next bid, or displacement cancellation ... and what this means for staffing.

I'd think there are already pretty detailed plans.

The plan is detailed, and they have option A and B. JAL give us most of A.

johnso29 01-16-2010 06:39 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 745210)
The plan is detailed, and they have option A and B. JAL give us most of A.

And option A means Bar stays off the Douglas, right?:p

I'm rooting for ya to stay on the 73N Bar! Maybe they'll just leave ya on!:D

CVG767A 01-16-2010 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 745188)
Just some of my thoughts, of which I'm sure none are correct!:p:D

I think you're spot on. The matter of the C-series Bombardier vs. the nexgen Boeing is way above my paygrade, though...

acl65pilot 01-16-2010 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by CVG767A (Post 745213)
I think you're spot on. The matter of the C-series Bombardier vs. the nexgen Boeing is way above my paygrade, though...

I would have sworn that DAL would sign on to the C-Series. It would makes sense because of the time to market for a next gen 737. It would also make sense to buy more 737 as they would be hitting 20 years when they would be replaced, but they seem to have no plans for the 737, and are not totally sold on the C-Series. Maybe the decision will surprise all of us.

acl65pilot 01-16-2010 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by FlyingViking (Post 745201)
To say the least. Any idea what will happend to the 37 747 that they have? The Kyozera guy wants them off the property ASAP if I am reading him right.

Depends. Some may be around there till 2015. Just wait until the detailed plan is announced later this next week.


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