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johnso29 02-16-2010 07:42 AM

IATA: industry sees positive growth rate for premium travel in December
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February 16, 2010





The International Air Transport Association said that the number of business class passengers was 1.7% higher in December compared with December of last year, marking the first positive year-on-year growth rate for premium travel since May 2008.

“[Last year] was a year of two very distinct halves, with the final stages of severe recession impacting the first half and then the post-recession upturn in the second half,” the report said.

May of last year marked the low point for premium travel, when numbers were down 25%from early 2008 levels. Since then, premium passenger numbers have risen 11%, but by December were still 17% below the size of the market in early 2008, IATA said.

As a result, premium travel has lost six years of growth, while economy travel has lost more than two years of growth, the report said.

Economy travel was 5% higher in December compared with the same time last year.

deltabound 02-16-2010 07:46 AM

Quick! Let's get all the airlines to flood the market with excess seat capacity to manage this extraordinarily modest uptick!

acl65pilot 02-16-2010 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by deltabound (Post 764465)
Quick! Let's get all the airlines to flood the market with excess seat capacity to manage this extraordinarily modest uptick!

So true.

Our guys are trying to really curb capacity. If the industry as a whole can do this, maybe our yields will go up. I know, who am I kidding, some airline will flood the market.

jiminmem 02-16-2010 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by Burn Notice (Post 764306)
  • Two of these four slot pairs are tied to Boston service. Which I why I post this on Delta's "Latest and Greatest." Who else would be interested in BOS-LHR? Can Delta make BOS-LHR work twice a day? My guess is no, but maybe once a day could keep a 767 busy
I remember way back in late '00 or early '01 we started BOS-LGW. Anticipation for the new Leo Memorial Terminal, anyway, we filled every flight while it ran. After 9/11 it was pulled down. I think we could do both flights no problem out of BOS. Imagine 2 BOS-LHR, 1 BOS-AMS, 1 BOS-NRT (my addition) and our BDA. Add some DR and Mexico and we would be THE international airline out of BOS.

Burn Notice

Sounds great, but we would have to pay leave payments to AA/BA for the route and they can take it back in 10 years, not sure if its worth it. Having a Boston base would be nice though.

hoserpilot 02-16-2010 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 764492)
So true.

Our guys are trying to really curb capacity. If the industry as a whole can do this, maybe our yields will go up. I know, who am I kidding, some airline will flood the market.



The DOT will help flood the market by giving DAL's and US AIR's slots away to another start up.

acl65pilot 02-16-2010 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by hoserpilot (Post 764532)
The DOT will help flood the market by giving DAL's and US AIR's slots away to another start up.

Maybe they will take more slots and give them to underprivileged carriers like Virgin America, and help Skybus restart.

I keed I keed

firstmob 02-16-2010 11:44 AM

Call the undertaker this post has died!

acl65pilot 02-16-2010 11:50 AM

No, not died, just taken a well deserved break. Just give it a few days/weeks and there we be another 1000 posts.

FtB is flying, 80 is flying, Beer is drinking beer, Super is playing with his GTO :D, and I am actually doing work. :D I know scary.

acl65pilot 02-16-2010 12:12 PM

If you are bored: Here are some news headlines from Flightglobal.....

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Sink r8 02-16-2010 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by firstmob (Post 764597)
Call the undertaker this post has died!

Not really, but the optimistic vibe that carried it has taken a rather severe hit. We commited the classic sin of (almost) ordering our manuals based on rumors.

Last time I saw it done, it was the UsAirways pilots trying to get Delta 777 books, but Manual Services couldn't find their employee numbers in the computer.

That's where the comparison ends, because there is no realistic explanation for what happened at DOT, and in Tokyo, except that we were out-lobbied, then duped by people in the government that were trying to out-corrupt each other.

So we definitely took a few hits. I just hope we don't turn the other cheek. Just as it is a mistake to underestimate AMR, it is a mistake to underestimate Delta. There is a bit of a target on our back, but we seem to do well when that happens. I think we even recently brought in a few thousand experts in trench warfare, some of whom just live for this stuff. Nothing unifies better than a common enemy. Or enemies.

I feel better already.


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