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Originally Posted by iaflyer
(Post 766738)
You have some of it wrong, I think.
At 2000z you go right to LC and rest at the same time. You get your required rest while on LC. At 2001z they could assign you a trip via LC, reporting at 0800z. You are correct on the second part about 9 hrs rest and 3 hours to commute, because you have to acknowledge a trip 3 hours prior to report. |
Originally Posted by iaflyer
(Post 766738)
You have some of it wrong, I think.
At 2000z you go right to LC and rest at the same time. You get your required rest while on LC. At 2001z they could assign you a trip via LC, reporting at 0800z. You are correct on the second part about 9 hrs rest and 3 hours to commute, because you have to acknowledge a trip 3 hours prior to report.
Originally Posted by buzzpat
(Post 766742)
That's the way I understand it as well.
Thanks guys. I thought I remember reading the 9(rest)+3(commute)=12(LC) somewhere on this thread a long time ago. :p |
Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 766735)
Ok guys,
Just looking for some clarification. I want to make sure I'm interpreting this correctly. Section 12 G. Break in Duty 4)When a domestic category pilot (or an international category pilot flying in domestic operations) is at his base, a period of at least nine hours (release to report) is required to constitute a break-in-duty. So, I start SC and receive a turn. I finish the turn, check my schedule and see nothing on it. The time is 2000Z. I am now on rest for 9 hours, and LC will start at 0500Z, correct? And to go further, the earliest I can be assigned another pattern on LC would be 1700Z? (Assuming I wasn't assigned another pattern at release that would terminate inside my max allowable duty) Or, is the 9hrs rest + 3 hrs to commute = 12 hours LC? Does LC start right after I'm released?? :confused: Thanks in advance :o Hope you're right. I guess I'll just wait and see how it plays out. I'm just bored here in DTW with back to back short calls. On a side note, it would be nice if they didn't ALWAYS give guys a 5am or 5:30am short call on the first day. Looks like they got someone again tomorrow! How about giving the first day guy a noon short call so he can commute in the day of :D I wish your interpretation of the 9 hours rest was right, but unfortunately I think the other guys are right. You stuck in DTW tonight? |
While we are on the subject. I flew with a CA the other day that insisted that scheduling had to attempt to notify you for a SC. We read the contract and I could not find anywhere that we are required to check between 3pm and 2am the day prior, but I did find that they have to attempt to notify. What is the correct interpretation of this rule?
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
(Post 766750)
Hope you're right. I guess I'll just wait and see how it plays out. I'm just bored here in DTW with back to back short calls.
On a side note, it would be nice if they didn't ALWAYS give guys a 5am or 5:30am short call on the first day. Looks like they got someone again tomorrow! How about giving the first day guy a noon short call so he can commute in the day of :D I wish your interpretation of the 9 hours rest was right, but unfortunately I think the other guys are right. You stuck in DTW tonight? |
Originally Posted by FlyingViking
(Post 766756)
While we are on the subject. I flew with a CA the other day that insisted that scheduling had to attempt to notify you for a SC.
I think you have two questions there:
Originally Posted by FlyingViking
(Post 766756)
We read the contract and I could not find anywhere that we are required to check between 3pm and 2am the day prior, but I did find that they have to attempt to notify. What is the correct interpretation of this rule?
A long call pilot will be notified of his assignment to open time under Section 23 N. or O. by one of the following two methods: (1)telephone contact from Crew Scheduling. (2) electronic placement of a rotation or conversion to short call that is placed on his schedule prior to: a) his release from a rotation, or b) nine hours before the end of his last non-fly day (other than a vacation day) before an on-call day. also: A reserve pilot will be required to check his schedule via DBMS or VRU: no later than 0200 base time on his first on-call day following a non-fly day, so as to be able to acknowledge: a) any assignment no later than three hours before a scheduled report of the rotation or start of a short call period, or |
Agree. It all surrounds your first duty day. For subsequent days, I do not beleive that you are required to check, and times when I have not acknowledged a short call, they have called to notify me well in advance of my required rest prior to the SC period.
The way I understand it, the computer will prompt them to call you. |
Johnso;
As a non-commuter, I prefer the early SC's. Well early if they are not preceding an IROPS event that is. :D |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 766808)
Johnso;
As a non-commuter, I prefer the early SC's. Well early if they are not preceding an IROPS event that is. :D |
Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 766735)
Ok guys,
Just looking for some clarification. I want to make sure I'm interpreting this correctly. Section 12 G. Break in Duty 4)When a domestic category pilot (or an international category pilot flying in domestic operations) is at his base, a period of at least nine hours (release to report) is required to constitute a break-in-duty. So, I start SC and receive a turn. I finish the turn, check my schedule and see nothing on it. The time is 2000Z. I am now on rest for 9 hours, and LC will start at 0500Z, correct? And to go further, the earliest I can be assigned another pattern on LC would be 1700Z? (Assuming I wasn't assigned another pattern at release that would terminate inside my max allowable duty) Or, is the 9hrs rest + 3 hrs to commute = 12 hours LC? Does LC start right after I'm released?? :confused: Thanks in advance :o |
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