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Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 791467)

When does more sick time get added to our bank? Also, is it 240 hours in a rolling 3 year period at 100%?

Thanks :)

June and yes, when you are at your 9th year... prorated if you have less years of service.

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Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 791467)

When does more sick time get added to our bank? Also, is it 240 hours in a rolling 3 year period at 100%?

Like he said, June is when your sick bank is recharged.

It's now 300 hours in a rolling 3 year period. (It got changed from 240 with the JCBA)

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Originally Posted by FlyingSig (Post 791469)

June and yes, when you are at your 9th year... prorated if you have less years of service.

So with less then 9 years of service we get a prorated amount of less then 300 hours in a rolling 3 year period at 100%?:confused:

Guess I'd better get my contract out.:o

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Originally Posted by finis72 (Post 791450)

I might be senile and I think I understand what you are saying but my problem with such a broad statement is this: If we demand too big a slice and somehow succeed in arbitration/self help the results can also be bad, ie contract 2000 (it was great for a while but after 9/11 not economically feasible) or another scenario; fuel goes up or our pay is so high they can't buy enough fuel and we shut down a/c and furlough.
I think our negotiators will figure out how much the company can afford and then ask for more but settle as close to 100% as possible.In 30 plus years of this I know that when the company does well I do well but when the company stumbles I take serious gas (loss of pension,downgrades,pay cuts etc.). In short we need to get every dime available and absolutely no more scope givebacks, period !

I agree finis. It isn't possible to negotiate every contract when Jupiter lines up with Mars and the economy is booming. Snapshots are good for some things, but not negotiating our contract out 5 years. We must make some financial assumptions that we will be profitable and sucessful. When were aren't, the company has ways of making us give back stuff in the middle of a contract, and they aren't shy about asking. Of course it would have to be a good reason, or we'll just say,"Sorry, but a contract is a contract." P.S. Are you one of those 500 pre-72 guys that didn't take the money and run leaving us holding an empty bag of money? If you are, then I salute you, although I hope you are thinking about retiring now.:D You must be one of those single digit guys. Ha Sorry, just envious. LOL I'm just junior AND old. ;)

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 791418)

There is a lot to learn about it. What Bar is basically saying is that D-ALPA took a 600 million dollar bargaining credit for relaxed scope, and Slow and Alfa are telling him he is full of bs.

Point to all of it is, that Bar wants to make a salient point that we better not sell 100 seat flying.

However, you can make a salient point without twisting the facts to conform with a preconceived idea of what went on. There was much more at stake than $600M and there was much more to the story than a quid pro quo trade. There is nothing quid pro quo about an 1113c contract rejection. Alfa and Slow have first hand knowledge of what went on, I give them a great deal more credibility in this debate.

If Bar's salient point is that scope should not be traded for bargaining credits, I agree completely.

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Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 791474)

So with less then 9 years of service we get a prorated amount of less then 300 hours in a rolling 3 year period at 100%?:confused:

Guess I'd better get my contract out.:o

no, that guy is confused. :)

The only thing in sick time that is prorated is the hours you get per year, if you are a new hire or returning from furlough.

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Originally Posted by FlyingSig (Post 791466)

ASA wasn't as guilty as Comair but they weren't anywhere the saint some make them out to be.... seems the only way to get hired at ASA was to be an ex-ASA pilot.

I had an ATR type, 2000 in type, went & saw them at the Air Inc Job fair, and 3 letters of rec from ASA Capt's and couldn't buy an interview at ASA...

That's because you didn't have a southern drawl and two teeth missing. I'm soooooooooo kidding. Sorry acl, but I coudn't resist. Probably a timing issue. Where are you now?
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Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 791482)

no, that guy is confused. :)

The only thing in sick time that is prorated is the hours you get per year, if you are a new hire or returning from furlough.

Thanks iaflyer! :)

I think I finally understand now. 300 hours in a rolling 3 year period at 100%. Since I'm just starting my 3rd year of longevity, the amount I receive in June will be prorated.

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Originally Posted by Reroute (Post 791481)

If Bar's salient point is that scope should not be traded for bargaining credits, I agree completely.

THANKS! Somebody gets it. The point is we were forced into concessionary bargaining and got used to the idea of trading jobs for credits. Now that ethic lives on and I sure do not want to see it applied to the 100 seat jet issue.

Management sure seems to be biding its time to see what we might be willing to sell.

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Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 791482)

no, that guy is confused. :)

The only thing in sick time that is prorated is the hours you get per year, if you are a new hire or returning from furlough.

"Explain how the Delta pilot's sick bank functions."

That was the only question on this year's Advanced Calculus final exam at Harvard.
Most of the class failed.