Originally Posted by Waves (Post 792629)

I may take some flak for this one (what's new :D), BUT, I'd bet the Mechanics have much more of a pension than the FA's due to their much higher salaries, even though their hiring criteria was less than that of an FA. Yes you heard that right. First of all, mechs are not required to have a minimum of a 4 year degree as our FA's were in the past (not sure about now). Albeit most Mechs had previous experience, Mechanics were not required to possess an A&P to get hired and most of them still don't have one. I beleive all the line guys must have an A&P, but not the guys working in the maintenance and tech ops areas. How do I know, becasue I ARE one. Ha :) I am an A&P with an IA endorsement. A good friend of mine was a DAL Mechanic for years. Of course I will admit he had a B.S. degree in Avionics and a masters degree in business, and came with military experience; however, he was the exception and not the rule. He quickly moved to become the FMS data analyst and is now a dispatcher. Morale of that story, I guess my wife should have been a DAL Mechanic. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by DALMD88FO (Post 792692)

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that your wife is a Delta Flight Attendant. Are you sure that a Bachelor's degree was a requirement for employment? I know that every time we have contract negotiations I have a flight attendant say something in line with "Well I have a Bachelor's degree and I don't get paid what I'm worth" and when I ask if it was a requirement to get hired I get the same answer....NO. And I'm not talking about new hires either. Sometimes people get confused with a requirement and something that makes you more competitive but not a requirement for the job. I know it hasn't been a requirement in the 10 short, yeah right, years I've been here.

Originally Posted by Waves (Post 792704)

You are correct on both accounts. I don't believe it was ever a hard requirement (when I see her again, I will ask my wife if it was required or just preferred) , but until recently, without a 4 year degree, they just didn't get hired. There are certainly exceptions to this. A good friend of ours was an 87 hire and she only had 2 years of college. She was/is very beautiful, so there ya go.

DAL Flight Time Requirements

• Minimum of 1,200 hours of total documented flight time
• Minimum of 1,000 hours of fixed wing turboprop or turbofan time

Know anyone at DAL who got hired with these hours. I sure don't. So is it a requirement to have more? Symantics perhaps. but I would say the minumum requirements to get hired are more like 3000 to 4000 hours. Military guys can get hired with less, but that is because of their training, short but intense sorties, and the fact that flight time logged is only when the wheels are in the air.

But again, you are technically correct.

Originally Posted by DALMD88FO (Post 792692)

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that your wife is a Delta Flight Attendant. Are you sure that a Bachelor's degree was a requirement for employment? I know that every time we have contract negotiations I have a flight attendant say something in line with "Well I have a Bachelor's degree and I don't get paid what I'm worth" and when I ask if it was a requirement to get hired I get the same answer....NO. And I'm not talking about new hires either. Sometimes people get confused with a requirement and something that makes you more competitive but not a requirement for the job. I know it hasn't been a requirement in the 10 short, yeah right, years I've been here.

Originally Posted by DALMD88FO (Post 792735)

I know a whole load of Delta pilots hired just right over these requirements. They come from one of two tracks, A. fighter guys and B. Friends and family. I just wanted to point out the difference between required and preferred as, like I said before, I've had it thrown in my face on more than one occasion during contract negotiations which have been almost continuous during the past ten years.

Originally Posted by sevenfiveseven (Post 792744)

Not that it matters but - High School graduate/GED is all that is required. That being said, I have flown with lawyers, a judge, dentist, physiologist, ... several advanced degree folks.
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