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acl65pilot 04-14-2010 05:15 AM


Originally Posted by TANSTAAFL (Post 795730)
And you don't think every other major airline, including fNWA has/had the same liability concerns, consultation, and legal issues? This is hardly unique to the DAL culture. Frankly if it was I think they would be a lot more standardized, not less.

Assuming the legal concerns are common, explain the difference between DAL manuals and training. Also explain why flying differently than you train helps that argument. :cool: I'll take your response off the air if you prefer, otherwise I'll lend you a shovel:D

Legal concerns are common, of course, but the focus and priority are different here at DAL. Why? It is and that is the way they have taken it.

As for the last paragraph:
I fly the way I am trained. I train and am checked the way I fly. If anything needs to be changed it is the way the 100 series in Initial qual is run. After that, it is as I state. (In my experience)
Be more specific.

Guard Dude 04-14-2010 05:21 AM

Wow
 
A friend of mine said this thread is still going! I had to check it out. Holy Crap, that's awesome! I just got back from a "ground job" rotation to Kandahar AB. Starting back at Delta this week. I'm displacing back to the 88. Looking forward to being a lineholder. As a commuter, I have decided to chase quality of life.

Hope everyone is doing well.

Cheers!

G. Dude

flap 04-14-2010 05:22 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 795720)
Slow, great points, I also stated that we could look at variances and or other options.
Sorry I put 401C that was a mistake, looking at some other stuff on my side of things and that was on my mind, should have said 415C

I know I am one that like to have as much money in a tax deferred account as possible. I know I would put at much as I could there since these types of payments are taxed at a much higher rate if they are paid to you in the form of a bonus check.

That said, I know many would want the cash.

So lets talk about this. How could we have the option of putting it in a 415C et al but allow pilots the option to take the cash instead. I am stumped, but I would like to give them that option. I guess we could have two options on what the payment is called to get around the goose and gander issues with said payments.
Thoughts?

Can't do it. As Slow correctly pointed out, if there is a choice, then it is an elective deferral under the plan and subject to the lower 401(k) limitation.

forgot to bid 04-14-2010 05:26 AM


Originally Posted by Guard Dude (Post 795739)
A friend of mine said this thread is still going! I had to check it out. Holy Crap, that's awesome! I just got back from a "ground job" rotation to Kandahar AB. Starting back at Delta this week. I'm displacing back to the 88. Looking forward to being a lineholder. As a commuter, I have decided to chase quality of life.

Hope everyone is doing well.

Cheers!

G. Dude

You started one hell of a thread Guard Dude! It's survived hiring, a merger, football seasons, good AEs, bad AEs, joint AEs and collegiate cheerleader picture days! Congrats and welcome back.

FlyinPiker 04-14-2010 05:26 AM


Originally Posted by Guard Dude (Post 795739)
A friend of mine said this thread is still going! I had to check it out. Holy Crap, that's awesome! I just got back from a "ground job" rotation to Kandahar AB. Starting back at Delta this week. I'm displacing back to the 88. Looking forward to being a lineholder. As a commuter, I have decided to chase quality of life.

Hope everyone is doing well.

Cheers!

G. Dude

Wow...The Godfather himself!!!!

Good to have you back!

Smart move on the -88. QOL is everything.

fishguy79 04-14-2010 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 795697)
Great points. I also think that a pilot, like with a bonus check could stick as much of a revenue sharing check as they want/can in to a tax protected account. See if we can max our 401K out each year, see if we can set up a 401C. I personally would put as much as I could in to these types of an account.
a 1% bump in DC contribution a year, plus this, and I may actually get to retire at 55.



The fact that the federal government is studying the idea of forcing ERISA qualified pensions to buy annunities from the Federal Government:eek: makes me not want to put all my retirement money in tax deferred accounts.

acl65pilot 04-14-2010 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by Guard Dude (Post 795739)
A friend of mine said this thread is still going! I had to check it out. Holy Crap, that's awesome! I just got back from a "ground job" rotation to Kandahar AB. Starting back at Delta this week. I'm displacing back to the 88. Looking forward to being a lineholder. As a commuter, I have decided to chase quality of life.

Hope everyone is doing well.

Cheers!

G. Dude

Brother, thank you for your service and welcome back to Ma Delta!

UncleSam 04-14-2010 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by Guard Dude (Post 795739)
A friend of mine said this thread is still going! I had to check it out. Holy Crap, that's awesome! I just got back from a "ground job" rotation to Kandahar AB. Starting back at Delta this week. I'm displacing back to the 88. Looking forward to being a lineholder. As a commuter, I have decided to chase quality of life.

Hope everyone is doing well.

Cheers!

G. Dude

Welcome back, Dude! Thanks for your service in far away places.

acl65pilot 04-14-2010 05:38 AM


Originally Posted by flap (Post 795740)
Can't do it. As Slow correctly pointed out, if there is a choice, then it is an elective deferral under the plan and subject to the lower 401(k) limitation.

I figured as much, and because of that I beleive that the pilots should have a direct say in where the money would go. Most want a check and if that is what the majority want then we should honor that. I will take the tax hit of of a check that is our portion of the revenue from a JV and invest it post tax. Either way I want this group to get a portion of the revenue that is generated for DAL with these JV's. If I have to pay tax on it so be it.

acl65pilot 04-14-2010 05:40 AM


Originally Posted by fishguy79 (Post 795745)
The fact that the federal government is studying the idea of forcing ERISA qualified pensions to buy annunities from the Federal Government:eek: makes me not want to put all my retirement money in tax deferred accounts.

I hate taxes more. I get where you are going, but it they pull this off, there will be a revolt. There is enough money in tax deferred retirement account to pay of a good chunk of our national debt. That is my money.


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